Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Malorne the White Stag]

"WP: Like Tuskarr! Walrus people!

TW: Yes! Probably the most important ones I think."

hmmmm....

[Alexjimithing]

Is he though? What if a Titan's awakening causes their planet to flourish with energy and life? It could mean both.

I, personally, don't think they would drop such significant lore in an interview line.

Never know though!

[Teriz]

Honestly, I think a lot of people (myself included) were on a bit of a copium overdose. Admittedly, it almost does vindicate some of those comments that I was previously dismissive of along the lines of "why are you hyping yourself up? You're just going to be disappointed" in the sense that the expansion in my head was far better. I honestly think that this expansion doesn't seem that bad and would probably be an upgrade to BfA and Shadowlands. The talent system definitely seems very fascinating and very good.

The Dracthyr are only a problem in that connection—they're disappointing because everybody was excited for something that may have been better. The same thing goes for a lot of things. People got themselves convinced there would be a world revamp, a cool new set of races or class, something that's been hyped up for a while and whathaveyou. Consequently, even though the race isn't that bad (I don't like the faces, though—they really look Scalie-esque), people are generally disappointed. It's by our own hand, but I do admit that it's somewhat disappointing to get yourself hyped up on hints that something may change dramatically across the world and essentially get a new continent that seems somewhat interesting but doesn't meet those expectations and a race and class that are sort of underwhelming.

I must be quite the exception, because this is exactly the kind of expansion I wanted, and the new class is one of two concepts I was pining for. I was disappointed at first, but once I got more details on the Dracthyr and Evoker, I was more than satisfied.

I think a lot of folks were hoping for world revamp or a cosmic expansion instead of the “breather” expansion we ended up with.

[Nymrohd]

Seems fine to me, Northrend is a good size to stay at IMO. I don't think Dragonriding will be too fast, think it will help going across the zones but without the "Basically ignoring everything you see" feeling Flying gets weather we like it or not.

Oh I love the larger size. But with the way WoW works now compared to back then, travel time is far more important with world quests. So if they are very spread, some speed will be very welcome. Plus with the changes in crafting I think I'll feel far more interested in gathering mats which will increase travel time even more.

[Raetary]

That's a specious assumption. Look at how Fem Worgens were changed initially, they weren't simply another option by release.

That was 10 years ago.

Blizzards design philosophy is about expanding player customization.
And as i said, the model is made and presented, they are not gonna backtrack on it now.

[ChairmanKaga]

That was 10 years ago.

Blizzards design philosophy is about expanding player customization.
And as i said, the model is made and presented, they are not gonna backtrack on it now.

No way to know until next year but I think this is naively optimistic.

[SunspotAnims]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/wellpla...-snoots-326820
Bigger than Northrend? OK that's crazy. Northrend was huge and most of it was not even used past leveling. Yeah hope Dragonriding is fast.

It's been said in a handful of interviews that highly-upgraded and skillfully-played dragonriding is effectively faster than regular flying.

Another interesting tidbit from that interview that Wowhead didn't recap is that apparently there's a new team devoted specifically to making world content, which was previously handled solely by the quest team at large:

WP: Can we have dragon flight races…?

TW: Actually, yes! So one thing we are really excited about is that we have a content team that is focused on fun, outdoor world content, including things like dragon races. Or, hunting giant beasts in the centaur plains…

JW: We are REALLY excited about that. Repeatable content has always been under the purview of one big quest team, and we love doing it, but it’s nice having more people to make more things and put focus on unique things. We are super excited to have these folks who have been around WoW development for so long and are getting to play with the action figures in new, unique ways and figure out what is fun for players to hop into.

I thought it was worth pointing out. This along with the supposed scale of Dragon Isles is something I find very promising.

[Nymrohd]

I must be quite the exception, because this is exactly the kind of expansion I wanted, and the new class is one of two concepts I was pining for. I was disappointed at first, but once I got more details on the Dracthyr and Evoker, I was more than satisfied.

I think a lot of folks were hoping for world revamp or a cosmic expansion instead of the “breather” expansion we ended up with.

Honestly I think the reveal means nothing. MoP reveal felt so stupid to me. It's my favourite expansion. I was absolutely hyped for WoD. It's the expansion I played the least (though I will say, when I did play it, I enjoyed it. Just not enough to keep me subbed for long).
I am not particularly hyped for Dragonflight. I'll roll an evoker but I doubt it would become my main and not even sure it would be one of the alts I'd keep going to. The revamps to systems I actually find very interesting but we just did not get enough information; Legion was followed by a schedule of blogs and gave at least some examples of the changes in the original presentation. If they do start showing more in the next couple of weeks my hype may well go up ofc. I would expect Alpha about 6-7 weeks from now given the vendor built is available; that's the usual time and I am guessing it's not about marketing but rather about the technical issues because of the scale of the expansion, they need the time to make sure it doesn't fry anyone's graphic cards when the alpha launches.

[Raetary]

No way to know until next year but I think this is naively optimistic.

It's the bare minimum.

[ChairmanKaga]

Honestly I think the reveal means nothing. MoP reveal felt so stupid to me. It's my favourite expansion. I was absolutely hyped for WoD. It's the expansion I played the least

The WoD reveal and garrisons felt like such a brilliant natural extension of the base building of the original RTS games. I distinctly remember being extremely excited. In my experience alot of people I had played with who bailed during Cata or MoP were also very excited. What a belly flop it ended up being.

[Three Faced Goddess]

I'm almost 100% sure we're getting Tuskarr as an AR very shortly. Maybe even in 9.2.5.

Not to be a party pooper but there's no evidence supporting this and as cool as a few people think they are, (they're okay) I don't think they would sell pre-orders. Another thing is that the last time we got Pre-order Allied Races, they had nothing to do with the next expansion but instead the prior one. The pre-order will most likely be available once 9.2.5 is out and the AR in question is more likely to be related to the aftermath of Shadowlands. Probably something undead or related to it.

I think Tuskarr are more likely to be an AR during Dragonflight and hopefully, Gnolls with them.

[infinitemeridian]

It's been said in a handful of interviews that highly-upgraded and skillfully-played dragonriding is effectively faster than regular flying.

Another interesting tidbit from that interview that Wowhead didn't recap is that apparently there's a new team devoted specifically to making world content, which was previously handled solely by the quest team at large:



I thought it was worth pointing out. This along with the supposed scale of Dragon Isles is something I find very promising.

Hopefully this pans out. I'm sick to death of boring uninspired world quests that take forever as the only world content in the game.

[Ilir]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/wellpla...-snoots-326820
Bigger than Northrend? OK that's crazy. Northrend was huge and most of it was not even used past leveling. Yeah hope Dragonriding is fast.

They did say dragonriding is faster than anything we ever had.

Also I imagine the more you "unlock" your dragonriding secrets etc, the faster you'll be.

I really think this can be such a fun thing, with the races, the exploration etc.

I'd love a boss design where one of the phase is us flying with our dragon mount and chasing a foe/fleeing from one while dodging stuff, like those arcades games.

Tons of fun gameplay element to implement with such a feature !

Also dunno if people know about this but Drakth'yr will be able to use their dragon form to "dragonride" if they want or use a dragon mount, which is so cool to me !

I can't wait to play Evoker.

[Ersula]

Stop making me think 4chan is a good source for leaks: Last I checked wowg was accusing the game of turning children gay & that Madeline Roux got her job from nepotism (there's a CEO with the last name Roux but Madeline Roux isn't even her real name, not to mention she was writing a lot of fantasy before writing for wow)

[Three Faced Goddess]

Here is my attempt to encourage discussion. Fingers crossed I'm successful. :P

https://twitter.com/smitingtitan/sta...9P5igaUOA8C37A

[Syegfryed]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/wellpla...26820#comments

TW: That’s totally possible. And the fun part about the Dracthyr and the ‘visage’ form is that visage forms are effectively what Dracthyr choose to represent themselves as, right? They are actually dragonkin, but they present themselves in this way and so with that we have allowed them to have so many different options that we may not have offered to a normal kind of character.

YOU CAN CHOOSE TO REPRESENT YOURSELF....

...but you are forced to represent yourself as a male blood elf and a female human, just that, what a huge joke

Their hair colour? There are actually over 30 different hair colours!

JW: …and that’s tops AND bottoms!

WP: Because they can have two-tone hair?

TW: Yeah! You can do two-tone hair, and hair highlight colours you can switch between!

thats it, problem fixed, you represent yourself with SO MANY DIFFERENT HAIR COLORS, this is how you express yourself as dracthyr, picking two tone hair option

I think i will just stop reading the interviews.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Is he though? What if a Titan's awakening causes their planet to flourish with energy and life? It could mean both.

I think that's what they're going with there. Especially with "primal energy" being a thing now this expansion.

[rhorle]

I think that's what they're going with there. Especially with "primal energy" being a thing now this expansion.

It is possible but they could just be playing up the elemental angle. They predate the old gods so they could be some ancient energy. Though the lore says they had to be sealed away or they would keep manifesting on Azeroth when defeated. So they elemental power could be some Azeroth linked power. Watch them link it to the first ones some how.

[Lahis]

I'd love a boss design where one of the phase is us flying with our dragon mount and chasing a foe/fleeing from one while dodging stuff, like those arcades games

Yeah, no vehicle bosses are always the worst encounters.

[KayRule]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/wellpla...26820#comments




YOU CAN CHOOSE TO REPRESENT YOURSELF....

...but you are forced to represent yourself as a male blood elf and a female human, just that, what a huge joke



thats it, problem fixed, you represent yourself with SO MANY DIFFERENT HAIR COLORS, this is how you express yourself as dracthyr, picking two tone hair option

I think i will just stop reading the interviews.

Hopefully they add two tone hair customization to other races eventually. Especially Worgen!