Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ilir]

Im interested to see how they will handle the Dracthyr going to do some lower level quests in one of the previous 3 expansions due to class specific stuff (order halls, azerite traits, covenant ability). I know they start at level 58 (60 after their intro) but unless they set all those quests to not be available I wonder what they will do

I guess they'll just get to skip all those intro quests and go straight to where they want to go and azerite trait gear will just have the generic trait every class/role has. For Legion, I think for the levelling your weapon isn't needed anywhere.

[Ersula]

And for Covenant abilities they might be a bit more elaborate, but likely not much more than "The pwoer of the Necrolords give you 30% haste for X Seconds" type things. That is of course if Covenant class abilities are even carreid over into the next expansion. The covenant specific abiliteis will probably just be locked to coveantn specific zones and content, but given that many of the covenant abilities seemingly are baked into the new talent trees they might just not get any abilities at all.
The soulbinds I think are definitely not going to carry over. Maybe just the soulbind specific abilities if they are nice.

But if they're adding those abilities to our Talent Trees why not just remove them as rewards for joining a covenant?

Im interested to see how they will handle the Dracthyr going to do some lower level quests in one of the previous 3 expansions due to class specific stuff (order halls, azerite traits, covenant ability). I know they start at level 58 (60 after their intro) but unless they set all those quests to not be available I wonder what they will do

I think there's a strong chance they just say "Evokers can't do the main Legion storyline." They would never need to, nor would they need weapons for that content because they're already 58. And if they wanted a character to do that content they would have one, whatever character they used to reach 60 & unlock the Drakthyr in the first place.

And with the advent of the new talent trees bringing back some borrowed power abilities, I foresee them removing the Covenant Abilities as a reward from the Shadowlands storyline in 10.0

[Ilir]

I am just going to say that for Legion stuff they are just going to do pretty much exactly what I predicted way back for that expansion.
You get a quest too talk to Khadgar to get an "Artifact" weapon. Possibly even a nice model if they are nice, that function identical to Artifact weapons right now, that being a couple relic slots and some preset stats.
For choosing the zone I think it will literally just be a Hero's call board or similar in Dalaran.

For Azerite Traits I think they will just get a bunch of generic abilities.

And for Covenant abilities they might be a bit more elaborate, but likely not much more than "The pwoer of the Necrolords give you 30% haste for X Seconds" type things. That is of course if Covenant class abilities are even carreid over into the next expansion. The covenant specific abiliteis will probably just be locked to coveantn specific zones and content, but given that many of the covenant abilities seemingly are baked into the new talent trees they might just not get any abilities at all.
The soulbinds I think are definitely not going to carry over. Maybe just the soulbind specific abilities if they are nice.

I mean we will be able to play evoker during pre-patch so unless they make all soulbinds/covenant obsolete during prepatch, pretty sure they will have access to soulbinds and covenants. Maybe it'll just give them the soulshape, necroshield etc ability and the soulbind without any conduit.

It's not really important tho

[Shadochi]

I am just going to say that for Legion stuff they are just going to do pretty much exactly what I predicted way back for that expansion.
You get a quest too talk to Khadgar to get an "Artifact" weapon. Possibly even a nice model if they are nice, that function identical to Artifact weapons right now, that being a couple relic slots and some preset stats.
For choosing the zone I think it will literally just be a Hero's call board or similar in Dalaran.

For Azerite Traits I think they will just get a bunch of generic abilities.

And for Covenant abilities they might be a bit more elaborate, but likely not much more than "The pwoer of the Necrolords give you 30% haste for X Seconds" type things. That is of course if Covenant class abilities are even carreid over into the next expansion. The covenant specific abiliteis will probably just be locked to coveantn specific zones and content, but given that many of the covenant abilities seemingly are baked into the new talent trees they might just not get any abilities at all.
The soulbinds I think are definitely not going to carry over. Maybe just the soulbind specific abilities if they are nice.

Yeah, I also think that the 3 expacs will be replaced with generic stuff. Azerite traits not tied to classes, for covenants they can even redo some of the thorghast abilities (the one from quests in torghast to get X stat for Y seconds where their is like one for each cov)

[Sondrelk]

But if they're adding those abilities to our Talent Trees why not just remove them as rewards for joining a covenant?

Well yeah, that is what I am saying. If they are adding Convoke the Spirits and such to the Druid talent tree, then there isnt really a point in letting you get that ability from joining the Night Fae at all, so come the Pre-patch that choice might end up entirely cosmetic with only the Covenant ability like Soulshape staying as abilities.

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I mean we will be able to play evoker during pre-patch so unless they make all soulbinds/covenant obsolete during prepatch, pretty sure they will have access to soulbinds and covenants. Maybe it'll just give them the soulshape, necroshield etc ability and the soulbind without any conduit.

It's not really important tho

What i am most curious about is whether they will do something special for the Tier Sets from Sepulcher.
I very much doubt it given DHs only got generic abilities on generic looking armor, but we do have the Creation Catalyst to warrant making unique looking gear for once, so maybe...

[Ilir]

Well yeah, that is what I am saying. If they are adding Convoke the Spirits and such to the Druid talent tree, then there isnt really a point in letting you get that ability from joining the Night Fae at all, so come the Pre-patch that choice might end up entirely cosmetic with only the Covenant ability like Soulshape staying as abilities.

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What i am most curious about is whether they will do something special for the Tier Sets from Sepulcher.
I very much doubt it given DHs only got generic abilities on generic looking armor, but we do have the Creation Catalyst to warrant making unique looking gear for once, so maybe...

Since it lasts 2 weeks, I think they're going to get the base mail gear from the questing in ZM as a recolor or hunter/shaman recolor with something like "your abilities deal 10% more damage" or smth.

[Xilurm]

So yeah, it has begun;



I think Blizzard might have a winner on their hands.

I'll be making mine Green. Always liked the Green Dragonflight a bit more than the rest.

[Sondrelk]

Since it lasts 2 weeks, I think they're going to get the base mail gear from the questing in ZM as a recolor or hunter/shaman recolor with something like "your abilities deal 10% more damage" or smth.

They said the Pre-Patch event will last 2 weeks, we might get lucky and have the actual Pre-patch last logner though, even if it's unlikely.

[Rtrain]

But if they're adding those abilities to our Talent Trees why not just remove them as rewards for joining a covenant?

I think there's a strong chance they just say "Evokers can't do the main Legion storyline." They would never need to, nor would they need weapons for that content because they're already 58. And if they wanted a character to do that content they would have one, whatever character they used to reach 60 & unlock the Drakthyr in the first place.

And with the advent of the new talent trees bringing back some borrowed power abilities, I foresee them removing the Covenant Abilities as a reward from the Shadowlands storyline in 10.0

They already said evokers start in their own special zone then progress into dragon isles. I’d assume 10.0 will wipe out covenants some how.

[Ilir]

They already said evokers start in their own special zone then progress into dragon isles. I’d assume 10.0 will wipe out covenants some how.

No they said that covenant will still be there but you won't get double the benefit like if you chose night fae cov and take the night fae spell as talent (for druid) you won't be able to use the ability 2 times in a row, the cd will be shared.

[Nymrohd]

Im interested to see how they will handle the Dracthyr going to do some lower level quests in one of the previous 3 expansions due to class specific stuff (order halls, azerite traits, covenant ability). I know they start at level 58 (60 after their intro) but unless they set all those quests to not be available I wonder what they will do

All those quests are tagged to be available for their respective classes so yeah, they won't get them.

[Teriz]

I'll be making mine Green. Always liked the Green Dragonflight a bit more than the rest.

I really like the one with the darker skin. Gives me “Arabian Nights” vibes. I’m not really into making female characters, but I’d like a Black Dragon alt with a similar visage appearance to that.

[Lady Atia]

I really like the one with the darker skin. Gives me “Arabian Nights” vibes. I’m not really into making female characters, but I’d like a Black Dragon alt with a similar visage appearance to that.

I'm wondering if/how they will restrict the amount of dracthyr per realm/account. I think dh's and dk's were 1 per realm initially?

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All those quests are tagged to be available for their respective classes so yeah, they won't get them.

They will be 60 once they finished their starter zone. And they will come 2 weeks before the release of the expansion so we will have the new talent system already and covenants will be cosmetic only. Will be interesting to see if we will get a progenitor set for them - iirc dh's got a tier set for HFC.

[deucecorp]

I think you are feeding the troll

Just because my little heart desires more challenges, more dungeons, more raid encounters, not sure I'm the troll here.
Go tell the PVP player, there is no new Arena (or even proper gear ha!) because budget was spent on Ardenweald fireflies, or Ember Court.. He'll totally understand 100%.

Legion had very cool covenant sanctum, and a lot more. SL is/was empty. The emptiest besides dungeons. Dig up some posts, that was pretty much a consensus back then in Dec. 2020. My memory is not fading.

Covenants = 1 or maybe 2 fancy spells. Actually can recall someone casting 'door of shadows' in DoS this year.
Sanctum = 'Nerfed to the ground' mission table forcing you to create level 1 chars just to store all the fish it gives! (remember Legion table? or BFA?)
Anima = newest (DoA) Apexis Crystal.

"Whose hair got longer, whose face got nicer" was the ONLY Wowhead Facebook post in 2021, where people actually left hundred(s) of comments. Opposed to the usual 5-10... Cosmetics are too much prio, no?

Come back with more difficult personal insults please. I stay by my opinion that WoW -> Eyecandy. They even take out plenty what the more enthusiast people love in the game, and considering many guys' comments I've went through in past days, the majority wants an even more dumbed down, sterile game. Where nothing to farm, nothing to fight for, everything being thrown at you after 2 clicks. (hello free mythic tier item crafting)

[Aeluron Lightsong]

egion had very cool covenant sanctum, and a lot more. SL is/was empty. The emptiest besides dungeons. Dig up some posts, that was pretty much a consensus back then in Dec. 2020. My memory is not fading.

MMO-Champion isn't the consensus of the warcraft fanbase nor is people who agree with you.

[Rtrain]

No they said that covenant will still be there but you won't get double the benefit like if you chose night fae cov and take the night fae spell as talent (for druid) you won't be able to use the ability 2 times in a row, the cd will be shared.

Sorry I meant specifically for evokers. Did they say anything about that? Because I missed it if they did.

[deucecorp]

MMO-Champion isn't the consensus of the warcraft fanbase nor is people who agree with you.

Yes, you are right in there. 'Consensus' is strong wording maybe. I was just parroting what my friends or other people told me on different platforms. Many of them had big hopes and quit right after first month. While in BFA.. Or Legion I didn't see this. They actually came back for Legion. Even those who quit back in Wotlk or MoP.
Spoken with plenty of new players too ingame who joined during BFA/SL, they are enjoying the game to the fullest, maybe because have no memories of previous expacs, or ups and downs.
I personally couldn't care less what colour is my dragon or my hair or my skin. Especially when watching my characters bum 99.9999% of the time. But that's just me really. Same thing I see in the street though. "New players" care more or being sensitive about their looks more than ANY previous generations before. lol. so I stop arguing on this one I promise.

[Rathwell]

I mean we will be able to play evoker during pre-patch so unless they make all soulbinds/covenant obsolete during prepatch, pretty sure they will have access to soulbinds and covenants. Maybe it'll just give them the soulshape, necroshield etc ability and the soulbind without any conduit.

It's not really important tho

They'll likely make them obsolete during prepatch. Wasn't it during Prepatch in Legion that we gave up our artifact powers? Borrowed powers tend to be handed back in during the prepatch for next expansion

[AngerFork]

I'll be making mine Green. Always liked the Green Dragonflight a bit more than the rest.

I'm kicking around going either Bronze or Green. I've always loved the Bronze look on time & how over the top it is, but the Green Dragonflight has always felt like my home Dragonflight as a Druid main.

[Teriz]

I'm kicking around going either Bronze or Green. I've always loved the Bronze look on time & how over the top it is, but the Green Dragonflight has always felt like my home Dragonflight as a Druid main.

Why do I feel so much connection to the Black Dragonflight? Am I evil or something?