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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I just don't get why they can't hire two Community Managers who have the training and practice to be front facing and do biregular livestreams with Q&As. It's been on my mind for quite a while since Ion and Lore made the decision to just "quit" the Q&A in Shadowlands. The whole "Senior people" have to do the Interviews instead of just having the people presenting in such Q&As going back and forth internally it just seems so rigid and "old structure" to me.

    And I'm not really speaking of the Dev Interviews either. I never understood the necessity of the Game Director and Senior Community Manage Leader doing it in the first place. But, hey that's Blizzard with their weird mimic of Japanese Game Company structure. It's not like they take advantage of that like Yoshi-P does for FFXIV.

    This new Twitter Space thing might just be a return of the Q&A in a way, but again we'll see what its future is. Its just a bit weird that they do this and make it just a podcast listening experience now. But hey, Blizzard gonna Blizzard rather than just being front facing.
    Not to mention how good an opportunity it is for them to show representation. Hearthstone hit a jackpot finding a transgender developer with enough charisma to do solid presentations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Not to mention how good an opportunity it is for them to show representation. Hearthstone hit a jackpot finding a transgender developer with enough charisma to do solid presentations
    That too is a curiosity. Again I think WoW has really needed a chill out point with some friendly dev faces that the audience meets on a regular basis on a livestream. We need some warmth rather than the distant coldness which fuels the anger in the audience. But yeah, I don't really expect the Marketing and PR Team to fully understand that issue about the WoW Community and why they are so surprised at the whole fanbase being so quick to be vitriolic these days.

    And no the Reveal structure of 9.2 and 10.0 just feels inorganic and cold and everytime it leaves a info vacuum that is only filled by reading a bunch of interviews to sell you on the actual patch/expansion rather than marketing beats that actually just fell flat and made it seem like there's even less focus on content than the Post-MoP era.

    At least with 9.2, WoWHead was on top of their game to make sure all info about 9.2 was attainable rather quickly after the Reveal led everything into chaos. But, yeah 10.0 has been a slowburn with interviews all over the place.

    Not to speak of Laptopmag having a 6 part interview with just 1 part out so far and one of the parts is tied to Transmog which I am curious about.
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  3. #54123
    Quote Originally Posted by Vakir View Post
    Weren't you vehemently shitting on it a week ago?
    Shitting on the developers for not addressing the primary problems of shadowlands. Yeah. I don't have a problem with a WoTLK inspired continent or a dragon class; I have a problem with the developers attitude toward the game & audience. Engaging with the community & putting on the appearance of engaging with the community are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Shitting on the developers for not addressing the primary problems of shadowlands. Yeah. I don't have a problem with a WoTLK inspired continent or a dragon class; I have a problem with the developers attitude toward the game & audience. Engaging with the community & putting on the appearance of engaging with the community are two different things.
    And you base it only off of them not releasing Alpha or showing pictures of features. Did you consider it all may not be ready? Like, they just announced a podcast, hows is that "pretending" to engage?
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    I mean it is important to note that this is just a first step and sadly there's been a lot of people playing off that the communication problems are solved again talking point with the Council (Which is extremely inactive and the amount of threads not tied to the Three Pillars is very limited. ). There's like a total of 25-35 responses on the Council and there's usually 1 every week quota.

    We lost the long running Q&A without any explanation or reasonings given. We were forced to watch the narrative of the Shadowlands expansion go from a cool concept to a dead wasteland in which we had to watch everyone go "Cut & Run time, guys!" and then Ion stepped out of his bunker this time with a new publication since PCGamer grew hostile in Shadowlands when he did the same shtick with BFA.

    Is this Twitter Space going to be a good start? Yes, but again we have no idea if this is reoccurring or if it has a future beyond this pilot episode.

    As always I have to remind everyone that the Shadowland Alpha also had this first impression of Developers wanting to engage with the audience and then once launch happened it was complete silence, jobs done we got them preorders boys.

    Time to go back into the bunker until 9.1 and do 2 Interviews before we peace out before Ion steps out of his bunker to reveal the x.2 and say Sorry for the second time.

    Will history repeat itself for a third time, this time being lack of content being the clear issue? With Ion stepping out for 10.2 and saying Sorry again.

    I mean hell we have no confidence that they will ship 3 Major Content Patches this expansion so far.

    (Not to speak of I don't trust Ion about this expansion being far ahead at all. This is the most basic safe idea they could come up with while the internal side of the company is burning, WFH was active and the production pipeline was completely shattered. Again we're stuck on a 4 Zone Island with 2 Major Patch Islands again, great success!

    Maybe it leads to a good 11.0 on EK and Kalimdor but it could also be Cosmos Squash again with a Genocidal White Man and his Space Marine Queen. The latter making me grind my teeth as we dodged the 10.0 Revamp and any future chance of it ever happening again. Outside of the copium about Azeroths Awakening being hinted as 11.0)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    And you base it only off of them not releasing Alpha or showing pictures of features. Did you consider it may not be ready?
    Why bother engaging on someone who is on a constant thread of negativity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Why bother engaging on someone who is on a constant thread of negativity.
    Oh, it's fascinating how they are absolutely fuming over DF, mainly because of Drakebois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Shitting on the developers for not addressing the primary problems of shadowlands. Yeah. I don't have a problem with a WoTLK inspired continent or a dragon class; I have a problem with the developers attitude toward the game & audience. Engaging with the community & putting on the appearance of engaging with the community are two different things.
    This is the forum rhetoric equivalent of tapdancing around the issue and then tripping and snapping your neck.

    You were bitching and moaning about there not being enough content based on misleading and incomplete data like "4 zones is less than 5!" without looking at the context of the continent being freaking Northrend sized and making wild assumptions of scaling back. We all saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakir View Post
    You were bitching and moaning about there not being enough content based on misleading and incomplete data like "4 zones is less than 5!" without looking at the context of the continent being freaking Northrend sized and making wild assumptions of scaling back. We all saw it.
    I never said anything like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    I never said anything like that.
    So you didn't whine about there not being enough content or that there wasn't enough presented for us.

    'kay. This is pointless. At least everyone is aware you have no value in your voice.

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    Ok we got answers about the reason why they look humanoid and why the dracthyr are only envoker

    I’m ok with the lore

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    4 Zones is still less than 5 though. No matter how you spin it. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Considering the fact this is the least amount of zones, we've ever received in an expansion.

    By all means, I do enjoy people who haven't even seen the zones arguing from that position of the scale of them for the Marketing Department as if anything trustworthy can be ascertained from this expansion so far. (Hint: 3 Major Patches doko?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonsworn 4 Lyfe View Post
    Ok we got answers about the reason why they look humanoid and why the dracthyr are only envoker I’m ok with the lore

    I really hope they have a Mass Effect easter egg in their story. Make them pick a red, blue, or green beam for something. It really is to perfect to not have a Mass Effect reference of some type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    4 Zones is still less than 5 though. No matter how you spin it. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
    It doesn't make me wonder at all considering they've told us its the biggest expansion continent they've ever made.

    Legion had plenty of zones but each one was tiny.

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    So we have a galakrond cult
    A map without his bones
    The creation of the dracthyr possibly happening before Neltharion fell

    What if the dracthyr were made to fight against galakrond and his forces because Neltharion knew that the aspects weren’t enough and then he fell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    4 Zones is still less than 5 though. No matter how you spin it. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Considering the fact this is the least amount of zones, we've ever received in an expansion.

    By all means, I do enjoy people who haven't even seen the zones arguing from that position of the scale of them for the Marketing Department as if anything trustworthy can be ascertained from this expansion so far. (Hint: 3 Major Patches doko?)
    Makes you wonder exactly what, when it all is going to be bigger than Northrend? What's the significance of number 5?
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    Frankly, unless they say Dracthyr can be other classes I’m just not interested enough to resub. Would love to, the rest of everything I’ve seen looks nice, but I’ve been looking forward to a reptilian race for 17 years and we finally get it and it’s heals/ranged dps only… /puke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    4 Zones is still less than 5 though. No matter how you spin it. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Considering the fact this is the least amount of zones, we've ever received in an expansion.
    Makes you wonder what? Does zone count matter if the zones are the size of 8 smaller ones? Northrend had 10 zones. One was PvP and one was barely used (Crystal Song). They have said that the Dragon Isles is similar to Northrend in size so does it the individual number matter?
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    For most ppl here it’s maybe a good advice to read the Galakrond/Apsects novell

    https://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraf...009036&sr=8-16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    4 Zones is still less than 5 though. No matter how you spin it. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Considering the fact this is the least amount of zones, we've ever received in an expansion.

    By all means, I do enjoy people who haven't even seen the zones arguing from that position of the scale of them for the Marketing Department as if anything trustworthy can be ascertained from this expansion so far. (Hint: 3 Major Patches doko?)
    Ok let’s assume each new zone is larger than the ones in SL
    Then they would need less content so fewer quests and treasures/rares
    We don’t know if there are less

    You have a medium pepperoni pizza and a small pepperoni pizza
    You can’t deny the size difference even if the small pizza has one more slice

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