Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Dracullus]

Or just make Wildhammer Dwarves a proper AR

Or ignore non-issues. Far better than overcrowding game with too many races that are literal copies of existing ones. I can't imagine removing options for Dwarves and Wildhammer would differ from them only with 1 racial spell in this situation.

[Lady Atia]

I'm pretty happy we're gonna get an Asmongold interview with Ion, and a Holinka interview with MrGM.

Maybe Ion can ask him to not tell people to spit on other players?

[huth]

I made the font bold and bigger, but I'm not going to go back and edit the color. It would take a while to delete all of the color string text. I will not be using the color in the future, but I'm not going to change it as I already typed it all up. My apologies.

blizzquote gives you the special quote box. Use that if you really want to make something stand out.

This colur choice is really terrible, though. It's basically impossible to read in quote boxes, and very hard on the eye even in the base post.

The 30s-1min it would take to remove isn't really to much to ask, either.

[Sondrelk]

Or ignore non-issues. Far better than overcrowding game with too many races that are literal copies of existing ones. I can't imagine removing options for Dwarves and Wildhammer would differ from them only with 1 racial spell in this situation.

Wildhammer dwarves could in theory be Druids, which is an interesting option not currently available.
Also the heritage armor, and most likely amazing Gryphon AR mount.

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I'm pretty happy we're gonna get an Asmongold interview with Ion, and a Holinka interview with MrGM.

Can we expect either of them to ask whether transmog restrictions will be loosened? Not really sure there are any other questions I really have beyond when to expect 9.2.5 or Alpha.

[Syegfryed]

And yeah D&D can just add any number of races because adding a race costs 2-3 pieces of art that use them (often exist already) and a bit of dev time for a few racials. It can be as little as 2 pages of text. And we are getting space elves back since Spelljammer is coming soon! Wonder how new woke D&D will handle the Unhuman wars and the Scro!

What im saying its we at least need a balance, the playerbase is not one, we can get different things now and then.

No it's not? More customization is always good.

"more customization" is different from "making more elves as allied race", though.

Im all for giving blood elf the dead ones customizations, but as another allied race, come on

I mean... you perfectly know very well how popular the Blood Elves are. It's just a safe bet for them; they don't need to investing much effort/money as they would with other races, as they already got the model. Change it a lil bit, and there you go, another "race" people in general will be super excited about, even if it only has different ears and eyes color. Win-win situation for Blizzard.

Imean, somethig is popuplar, right, but how you can increase engagement if you add more of the same? whats the difference? how it will make people excited? why they would stop playing their elves to play other elves?(By making the new race only one class i guess?)

And like i said isn't like they are the 90% of the playerbase and the game is about then, you need to have some variation or its fucked

Its rly a bad design choice imo

[huth]

Wildhammer dwarves could in theory be Druids, which is an interesting option not currently available.
Also the heritage armor, and most likely amazing Gryphon AR mount.

Gryphonriding racial. Uses Dragonriding mechanics.

[Lady Atia]

Gryphonriding racial. Uses Dragonriding mechanics.

Or they could just use Dragonriding as a template for all flying mounts in 11.0, atleast for the start of the expansion. Also, who really cares for racials? As long as the customization is there it's fine - which is the case with Wildhammers tbh.

[Berkilak]

Gryphonriding racial. Uses Dragonriding mechanics.

And a complimentary Dragonmaw Orc AR for the Horde.

[Shadochi]

Lets be honest, all of us have been waiting for a Murloc playable race since vanilla.

Have the starting zone be underwater completely.

Racial is you summon a school of murlocks when you drop below certain % HP.

[Syegfryed]

And a complimentary Dragonmaw Orc AR for the Horde.

Watch out the clan that is know for taming dragons, having great knowledge about then be completely ignored the entire expansion that focus on dragons

Is a shame to not add wildhammer dwarves as well, who are well know for fighting dragons, since they were a big force against the orcs dragonriders in the second war.

Damn shame they will not show up, neither be allied race.

[Nymrohd]

Watch out the clan that is know for taming dragons, having great knowledge about then be completely ignored the entire expansion that focus on dragons

Is a shame to not add wildhammer dwarves as well, who are well know for riding and fighting dragons, since they were a big force against the orcs dragonriders in the second war.

Damn shame they will not show up, neither be allied race.

The Dragonmaw would be really weird but fun to have show up in Dragon Isles but then again, DKs will go to Dragon Isles.

But they don't look like elves so no.

[Lorca]

Imean, somethig is popuplar, right, but how you can increase engagement if you add more of the same? whats the difference? how it will make people excited? why they would stop playing their elves to play other elves?(By making the new race only one class i guess?)

And like i said isn't like they are the 90% of the playerbase and the game is about then, you need to have some variation or its fucked

Its rly a bad design choice imo

Sure, I agree with you, but Blizzard is clearly betting on the Blood Elves model, as they show when they choose the Blood Elf male model as the only male option for the Dracthyr visage form... and that's why I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get another allied race based on the Blood Elf model...

[Nymrohd]

Sure, I agree with you, but Blizzard is clearly betting on the Blood Elves model, as they show when they choose the Blood Elf male model as the only male option for the Dracthyr visage form... and that's why I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get another allied race based on the Blood Elf model...

To be fair, if they only were going to do one model, it would have to be the one that looks the most like Wrathion.

[Berkilak]

The Dragonmaw would be really weird but fun to have show up in Dragon Isles but then again, DKs will go to Dragon Isles.

But they don't look like elves so no.

It wouldn't be weird - it has more narrative potential than "Brann Bronzebeard learns more about Titans" or whatever. Having the Dragonmaw Clan interact with Alexstrasza (who did already say that she loves all life, Orcs included) would be very interesting, potentially making room for an actual legitimate redemption arc.

[Lorca]

To be fair, if they only were going to do one model, it would have to be the one that looks the most like Wrathion.

Well, or just the most popular, which is fair I guess if you are choosing only one. The one that kinda surprised me was the female human though instead of the female Blood Elf model, which seems to be far more popular.

[Veluren]

It wouldn't be weird - it has more narrative potential than "Brann Bronzebeard learns more about Titans" or whatever. Having the Dragonmaw Clan interact with Alexstrasza (who did already say that she loves all life, Orcs included) would be very interesting, potentially making room for an actual legitimate redemption arc.

Honestly that would be fun, though who's leading the Dragonmaw these days anyway? If I remember right their last leader was so into Garrosh's pants she followed him through his heel turn and I'd honestly not be surprised if she took the entire rest of the clan with her.

[Lahis]

Is a shame to not add wildhammer dwarves as well, who are well know for fighting dragons, since they were a big force against the orcs dragonriders in the second war.

Wildhammer are in the game.

[Syegfryed]

The Dragonmaw would be really weird but fun to have show up in Dragon Isles but then again, DKs will go to Dragon Isles.

But they don't look like elves so no.

I was going to say that, but people would claim im being biased, despite so much of this happening, pretty sure i heard the reliquary(or whatever is called) will be the main thing there, the thing run by elves again

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Wildhammer are in the game.

Yeah they are, they will show up in dragon isles? definitely no. They will be allied race instead of just customization? nope as well.

[Lahis]

I was going to say that, but people would claim im being biased, despite so much of this happening, pretty sure i heard the reliquary(or whatever is called) will be the main thing there, the thing run by elves again

The Reliquary is the only archeological organization in the Horde and they needed counterpart for Explorer's League.

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They will be allied race instead of just customization? nope as well.

My point exactly. Wildhammer dwarves are included in the dwarf customization.

[Veluren]

The Reliquary is the only archeological organization in the Horde and they needed counterpart for Explorer's League.

As the lonely, desiccated corpse of the Path of the Titans system shifts wistfully in the distance, since the Reliquary was made for that system to begin with.