Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

The fact that normal gives the Mount, and Heroic gives a title, while Mythic only gives teleports signals to me that Season 4 won't last overly long.

If they wanted the season to last long, they wouldn't have put the most sought after Reward in the first tier.

Not even normal, the way the achievement is stated I am pretty sure you can do it in LFR.

[Makorus]

Not even normal, the way the achievement is stated I am pretty sure you can do it in LFR.

Oh yeah, that's right actually. Tbh, to me that sounds like the season won't be overly long. Everyone will be able to get "important" reward, Heroic will be achievable quickly enough, and Mythic is the Keystone Hero equivalent of just TPs so you don't really miss out on anything

[Shadochi]

My fav takeaway from the AsmonxIon interview is the encryption stuff and trying to only test part of the stuff that needs to be tested. Hopefully they manage to up their game more!
TBH I kinda liked the datamining we recently got that was more people stringing together references than what I assume to be somewhat automated stuff we get as soon as the PTR build drops on MMOC and WoWHead

[Makabreska]

I am super curious with "Most things will be account-wide in Dragonflight." The obvious elephant in the room is rep, but it would be super troll move if it was not included in that "most" section. The fact that they did not clearly state it will be makes me think they did not decide yet.

[Valysar]

No where has it been stated that Season 4 will take 8 months. The quote everyone keeps referencing for that was just "in general" seasons last 6 to 8 months. Season 4 not introducing a new tier can easily be only a few months.

This. Season 4 is an extra season, it can last 3-4 months, or even less.

[Teriz]

God, I hope so.

I don't see how it could be anything else really. Having them running super fast on their legs would be weird. Maybe they fly low to the ground, then when they gain the appropriate riding skill they can fully fly in old content?

I think flying is an integral part of the Dracthyr given their wings.

[Varodoc]

Turalyon was nearly killed by Alleria's Void portal. That is pretty violent reaction to the opposing force.

Turalyon also has no clue about handling the Void.

Void elves train rigorously and constantly to handle the Void masterfully, it seems like a natural step to try and then mingle the Void with the Light.

The Void elves have already done the unthinkable. Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal in the history of the Cosmos to successfully defy the Shadows' whispers and ascend to a higher state. Before her, no one could defy the Shadows' whispers. This is an unprecedented feat.

More can be done. Before the Ren'dorei, no one has been able to perfectly mingle Light and Void into a single mortal fighter, but as Alleria and the Ren'dorei continue to shatter every preconception of knowledge, anything can happen.

[Marlamin]

My fav takeaway from the AsmonxIon interview is the encryption stuff and trying to only test part of the stuff that needs to be tested. Hopefully they manage to up their game more!
TBH I kinda liked the datamining we recently got that was more people stringing together references than what I assume to be somewhat automated stuff we get as soon as the PTR build drops on MMOC and WoWHead

I'll admit that is it way more fun to puzzle together things, but that is also why people haven't really been bothering with 9.2.5 since it's just more effort to find something. It was similar for the 8.2.5 stuff, there was a lot there that we could've puzzled together but simply didn't.

On the other hand, the result of said puzzles is usually spoilers which is the only part I don't like.

[Lorca]

I don't see how it could be anything else really. Having them running super fast on their legs would be weird. Maybe they fly low to the ground, then when they gain the appropriate riding skill they can fully fly in old content?

I think flying is an integral part of the Dracthyr given their wings.

I can see Dracthyr having a racial ability that enables some kind of "flight form/stance", as the druids' flight form button that allows them to flight (channel/charge it and then you can fly), as if it was a regular flying mount. As for the ground stuff, I don't really know what to say about it...

[Sondrelk]

I can see Dracthyr having a racial ability that enables some kind of "flight form/stance", as the druids' flight form button that allows them to flight (chanel/charge it and then you can fly), as if it was a regular flying mount. As for the ground stuff, I don't really know what to say about it...

For ground stuff I almost imagine they will be faster than a ground mount if the Dragonriding is extensive enough. Just find a small hill, jump off, and use the momentum to carry you forward at extreme speeds.

[huth]

This. Season 4 is an extra season, it can last 3-4 months, or even less.

With everything we've heard, i'm fairly certain the main goal of S4 is trying stuff out and see how it goes. How long it lasts will likely primarily depend on how quickly they can get DF out.

[Sondrelk]

I don't see how it could be anything else really. Having them running super fast on their legs would be weird. Maybe they fly low to the ground, then when they gain the appropriate riding skill they can fully fly in old content?

I think flying is an integral part of the Dracthyr given their wings.

Still think it's more important that their dragonriding racial scales with their dragonriding skill. Would feel kinda dumb to be a Dracthyr on a dragon because they never bothered to become better at flying.

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With everything we've heard, i'm fairly certain the main goal of S4 is trying stuff out and see how it goes. How long it lasts will likely primarily depend on how quickly they can get DF out.

The time-limited rewards from raids+ adds an extra layer on top though. Blizzard cannot in good faith add unique rewards that require skill to get be so aggressively limited. Even more so when only one raid at a time is active per week.

[huth]

I can see Dracthyr having a racial ability that enables some kind of "flight form/stance", as the druids' flight form button that allows them to flight (chanel/charge it and then you can fly), as if it was a regular flying mount. As for the ground stuff, I don't really know what to say about it...

So they put on some perfume and then can fly?

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The time-limited rewards from raids+ adds an extra layer on top though. Blizzard cannot in good faith add unique rewards that require skill to get be so aggressively limited. Even more so when only one raid at a time is active per week.

They could just leave it running, though. Not like older raids suddenly up and ran away without reason.

[Syegfryed]

I appreciate the very, very poor attempt to pretend you give a shit about stereotypes via near concern trolling, but it doesn't really work when, lmao, a single post ago you literally mocked the fact that the Horde was sending scholars and not people good at killing animals and dragons to "deal with" this """"dragon-infested isle"""".

I mean, it was your poor argument that other horde races are uncivilized and can barely read, because they don't have books in their capitals, so, we should assume, reading/writing is something only for a few, despite this being a fantastical world.

you want to deny that?

Even your rebuttal is poor handled with an lame attempt of gotcha, Sending scholars, who don't fight, to an expedition to a dangerous land first, or only for exploration, is a dumb idea, when you know you need people with experience in dangerous environment and with the experience of dragons in general.

Did you already went into a trail? who do you think accompany people in a hard and/or dangerous trail?

When me and other workers went for studying in rainforests or other woods we always took people with experience of the place and with the animals living there, as well who know how to handle weapons, you know, for the scholars to not get attacked by a damn jaguar, its the basics.

Like do you not realize how painfully transparent your posts are? You do the same shit with Dracthyr:

"Wow this Dracthyr are so stupid, they need to be changed to a more masculine and buff model! Blizzard is so dumb, they should have never added slender dinosaurs and added Drakonids instead. Lmao look at these dumb skinny geckos! They should have added real dragons!"
"I-i'm not saying they should be removed or changed, what I care about is players having options :^)"

Right, its a good attempt of fallacy here, but i always said they should get different options to pick bulky options, for both male and female, as the dragons don't have visual sexual dimorphism, there is not a single comment about me saying i want then more "masculine", you can check the posts.

But i forgive you cause many people are asking for that reason, and you attempted to put everyone who complain about the same model in one bag.

Like, i even said i can swallow the dragon form just fine, if they have another visage form and could be wear armor like worgens..

The rest i will not even bother cause is just more of you attacking points that i never made.

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We are there to explore the isles, not to kill and enslave all dragons.

Dragonmaw and Thunderlord have the wrong kind of experience. And do those clans even exist in the modern Horde?

Ok? why do you think they would go there for "kill and enslave dragons"? cause we can say the elves are going there to steal relics and suck everyone magic as well, they can follow orders just fine, and, experience is what most count in a situation like this, its not a safe place to go.

And those clans do exist in the hordeyes, the dragonmaw went beyond enslaving dragons and are taming then, more like the horde do with wolves, and thunderlord came as the maghar, you find then in BfA.

How about your dragon form?? Does that work for you?

hum? what you mean with that? i would like if the dragon form could use your armor, like worgens do, and be a bit more bulky yeah, like proper dragons. Frr all genders, before someone say something.

Btw...don't you get tired of constantly bashing the game?

Its evident that i don't, and im not bashing the game, im complaining about the race/class, and sometimes the lore, the rest is fine.

In fact, it had great improvement from shadowlands at first impressions

[Lady Atia]

Still think it's more important that their dragonriding racial scales with their dragonriding skill. Would feel kinda dumb to be a Dracthyr on a dragon because they never bothered to become better at flying.

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The time-limited rewards from raids+ adds an extra layer on top though. Blizzard cannot in good faith add unique rewards that require skill to get be so aggressively limited. Even more so when only one raid at a time is active per week.

First, they haven't confirmed that the rewards are actually time limited - and secondly, tbf the rewards are super good distributed this time around. Normal clear gives you the mount, which is doable by everyone and also the reward most people will care for. Heroic gives a cool title - still doable by most guilds and pugs. Mythic only gives the teleport which is nice to have, but if you don't it won't make your life miserable. I think that's something they should keep going forward for any future raid season!

[huth]

First, they haven't confirmed that the rewards are actually time limited - and secondly, tbf the rewards are super good distributed this time around. Normal clear gives you the mount, which is doable by everyone and also the reward most people will care for. Heroic gives a cool title - still doable by most guilds and pugs. Mythic only gives the teleport which is nice to have, but if you don't it won't make your life miserable. I think that's something they should keep going forward for any future raid season!

Especially a teleport that likely won't see much use past SL.

[Raetary]

when you know you need people with experience in dangerous environment

So they fit then? Because both the Reliquary and the Explorer's League constantly explore dangerous environments for their research.
Ulduar, Badlands, Zangarmarsh, Azshara, Darkshore, Barrens, Swamp of Sorrows, Uldum, Stranglethorn, Isle of Thunder, both of them gave their services for Operation Shieldwall/Dominance offensive back in mop, Ashran, everywhere on the Broken Isles, in BfA they dug around Tiragarde/Zandalar/Nazmir, later helped us out in Uldum and Vale with N'zoths invasion.

They are adventurers, archeology is just their occupation.
You act as these guys are some middle school nerds just clinging to their history books and disintegrate when someone looks at them weird.

Nvm that we will be accompanying them on the isles, so they have us as their personal experienced bodyguards anyway.

[Makabreska]

Ok? why do you think they would go there for "kill and enslave dragons"? cause we can say the elves are going there to steal relics and suck everyone magic as well, they can follow orders just fine, and, experience is what most count in a situation like this, its not a safe place to go.

And those clans do exist in the hordeyes, the dragonmaw went beyond enslaving dragons and are taming then, more like the horde do with wolves, and thunderlord came as the maghar, you find then in BfA.

I so sure that Alexstrasza will be positively thrilled to see Dragnomaw as Horde representatives. So many fond memories of them being together in the past!

Amazing reasoning, just to fit some more precious orcs in the setting.

And elves sucking magic? You member that they dropped the addiction ages ago? Sure you don't, they are not orcs so fuck the, and their lore.

[Lady Atia]

Especially a teleport that likely won't see much use past SL.

Yeah, well you can still use it for farming old content. But I think it's the good sweet spot were it still gives you a reward thats cool, but in the end of the day people who don't raid mythic shouldn't miss out on any customization/transmog/mounts (forever - it's ok if people can farm them later). It's ok to do FOMO stuff on normal/heroic level because both are actually reachable for most people if they really want, unlike mythic. Same goes for PvP imo, but I guess after all these years they can't go back and just remove Gladiator mounts in future seasons. But atleast you can buy viscious mounts later on.

[Varodoc]

The fact that Blizzard refuses to give a clear, definitive answer about the Sword is proof that they have something to hide.

C'Thun will return. Have people here forgotten that Azerite was capable of freeing N'Zoth from his bonds and the biggest source of Azerite in the planet is literally above C'Thun's fucking corpse? He's coming back.