Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[plz delete account]

We don't need an ending with Azeroth.

We know a Titan sleeps inside the planet, cool. Do we need to see her waking up? Nope. Why should she even wake up now? For all we know, she's still a fetus and she'll be born aeons into the future. How convenient that she'd wake up during the life of the PC, truly how convenient.

Azeroth doesn't need to wake up and frankly I hope she doesn't, I'd prefer if they used the Sword to bring back the Old God C'Thun instead.

How does waking up c'thun make *any* sense? He's been dead for a decade ingame, plus just had a sword absolutely decimate the area where he resides anyways. From a physics standpoint, if he wasn't already dead after we killed him, he's absolutely, 100% stabbed and crushed and creamed and vibrated to death. And if he didn't die from that, he's 100% bled to death.

[Ersula]

Honestly though I think it's more epic for us to have to put her down in the end. The ultimate emancipation of mortals is to have to put their mother down and then wonder the cosmos. It's tragic and epic.

Just go rent Eternals.

[Sondrelk]

Clash has made over $10 billion over its life time. Just because it is a strategy game doesn't mean they are looking for die hard RTS players as the core demographic.

I am sure they don't. But for RTS players who once, and probably still does consider Blizzard the peak of RTS game design, it is a bit of a slap in the face that they first give WC3:R, and now Clash of the Clans, rather than a proper WC4, or new Starcraft.

[Nymrohd]

Just go rent Eternals.

Oh that's why you are all reacting this way. I need to watch the MCU at some point, refusing to do so makes it impossible to communicate with people from the US sometimes.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I am sure they don't. But for RTS players who once, and probably still does consider Blizzard the peak of RTS game design, it is a bit of a slap in the face that they first give WC3:R, and now Clash of the Clans, rather than a proper WC4, or new Starcraft.

Its a mobile game though for the mobile game demographic, people need to fucking chill. WC4 aint happening, a new Starcraft maybe but I think people have unrealistic expectations or just overly possessive of these franchises.

[rhorle]

I am sure they don't. But for RTS players who once, and probably still does consider Blizzard the peak of RTS game design, it is a bit of a slap in the face that they first give WC3:R, and now Clash of the Clans, rather than a proper WC4, or new Starcraft.

It isn't. You are saying that Blizzard slaps anyone in the face when they develop an "adjacent" game to a genre/platform. You are also using the false assumption that Starcraft 3 or Warcraft 4 won't happen because of these games. All you are doing is inventing ways to hate on Blizzard and the mobile games.

[Greyfang]

I don't think Pokemon GO is a better option either. It's less offensive to it's potential audience, but said audience is extremely niche compared to just continuing ot play Pokemon GO.
I could be jumping to conclusions and it isnt going to literally like Pokemon GO, but if it is then I really cannot see what the niche the game would be going for is. Pokemon GO worked because it jumped at the perfect audience and managed to explode in popularity over the summer. I just don't see what would make players want to play another version of the same game, except with none of the inherent overlap between main game and mobile game.

Maybe if the supposed two games are actually one, and it's the gym mechanic from Pokemon GO combined with the clash of clans pseudo-RTS thingy.

I'm thinking whoever reported it to be like "pokemon go" instead meant to be like a Pet Battle game, which has been theorized/guessed for some time now. Maybe they dont know the franchises well and just saw pet battles and associated it with pokemon go. Maybe its not an AR Catch-pets-in-real-life thing, but more like an oldschool pokemon game where you capture/battle with the pets.

[Sondrelk]

Its a mobile game though for the mobile game demographic, people need to fucking chill. WC4 aint happening, a new Starcraft maybe but I think people have unrealistic expectations or just overly possessive of these franchises.

This isnt really being overly posessive though, it's just flat out wanting Blizzard to make a good RTS again.
This isnt even like Diablo Immortal where Diablo 3 was still active, and Diablo 4 was expected to show up eventually. The story-driven RTS adventures once made popular by Blizzard in the form of Starcraft is dying, and is in desperate need of a big game to revitalize the genre, and Blizzard making a version for mobile just seems like a stark regression even from the travesty that was WC3:R.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

It isn't. You are saying that Blizzard slaps anyone in the face when they develop an "adjacent" game to a genre. You are also using the false assumption that Starcraft 3 or Warcraft 4 won't happen because of these games. All you are doing is inventing ways to hate on Blizzard and the mobile games.

Again, it would've been better to present the Pokemon GO game first than the obvious game that will be referenced as the "Ultimate Death of the Warcraft franchise" by the media/Warcraft community/larger gaming community.

We all know its' going to happen either way even if it isn't logical within the current context of the "nice and cool" Blizzard who listens to us.

[rhorle]

This isnt really being overly posessive though, it's just flat out wanting Blizzard to make a good RTS again.

Which they can while also making a good mobile game, right?

[Lorca]

So they put on some perfume and then can fly?

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That would be funny. But I meant "channel" x'D mb

[rhorle]

Again, it would've been better to present the Pokemon GO game first than the obvious game that will be referenced as the "Ultimate Death of the Warcraft franchise" by the media/Warcraft community/larger gaming community. We all know its' going to happen either way even if it isn't logical.

If it would happen either way why does the order matter? Those that are looking to hate will do so no matter what.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

If it would happen either way why does the order matter? Those that are looking to hate will do so no matter what.

Because you are incapable of logic, it seems.

[Sondrelk]

It isn't. You are saying that Blizzard slaps anyone in the face when they develop an "adjacent" game to a genre. You are also using the false assumption that Starcraft 3 or Warcraft 4 won't happen because of these games. All you are doing is inventing ways to hate on Blizzard and the mobile games.

Blizzard has not made a proper RTS since SC2: Legacy of the Void, and that was 7 years ago (or 6 if you count the Nova DLC). If you just count the base Starcraft 2 meanwhile they have not made a mainline RTS in over a decade.
Again, this isnt like Diablo where the game is still ongoing, and the mobile game is just a poorly planned out announcement. The RTS genre as a whole is in dire need of a big title, and Blizzard has not made any motions towards continuing this once thriving branch of gaming that they themselves made mainstream.

Unless Blizzard somehow announce their intentions to ever make a SC3, or WC4 then I suspect the mobile announcement might just pour more fuel on the fire they seemed to have gotten under control by making Diablo Immortal available on PC, especially since optimizing an RTS for mobile and PC are on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

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Which they can while also making a good mobile game, right?

They absolutely could, but in lieu of any actual announcements or even voiced intentions of actually doing so this mobile game might just make it seem like they ahve completely abandoned it.

[Makabreska]

Because you are incapable of logic, it seems.

What kind of logic are we talking about here? The one that tells us that smaller Northrend is bigger than bigger Dragon Isles cuz number of zones?

[Khaza-R]

Mike Ybarra did say something about Reforged getting updates in the future. But yeah, now would be a good time to announce those along aside the mobile title so people know its not 100% abandoned

[Makabreska]

Mike Ybarra did say something about Reforged getting updates in the future. But yeah, now would be a good time to announce those along aside the mobile title so people know its not 100% abandoned

Uh, I think everyone wrote off Reforged months ago. Best think would be reverting changes that made original W3 worse.

[rhorle]

Unless Blizzard somehow announce their intentions to ever make a SC3, or WC4 then I suspect the mobile announcement might just pour more fuel on the fire they seemed to have gotten under control by making Diablo Immortal available on PC, especially since optimizing an RTS for mobile and PC are on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

Right. It is just people who are looking for any excuse to hate and rage at Blizzard. If they are on the opposite ends of the spectrum as you say then it isn't an insult to RTS PC players if a strategy game for mobile comes out. You keep pointing out how different they are while still trying to connect the dots to justify hate/rage over Blizzard releasing a game that isn't the one "RTS players" want.

The "If I can't have it no one can" approach.

[plz delete account]

Uh, I think everyone wrote off Reforged months ago. Best think would be reverting changes that made original W3 worse.

As a WC3R player, it was written off years ago. The moment it hit Beta, actually.

Though the recent rumors about a new WC3R patch have me pretty excited.

[Xilurm]

Though the recent rumors about a new WC3R patch have me pretty excited.

Same, and I never even played it.