Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[therumblings]

I do not pretend people liked borrowed power. But i believe people would like instanced content that gives gearing progression.

Mythic+ and Raiding exists. It's never been easier than it is now to start doing it.

[therumblings]

You're never getting a solo gearing progression on par with M+ and raids. It's just not happening. Not only is that anti-social, but also it would be incredibly frustrating for players to be unable to beat the content and not bring a friend with them. What's wrong with dungeons and raids? This stuff has worked for a long time for a reason, and players want to go back to what worked. Example: Talent Trees.

[KainneAbsolute]

If a planet houses a world soul...is there is any chance it houses 2 world souls? like twins?

What if Azeroth isn't corrupted but divided in 2...if Sargeras sword is a mourneblade...it can divide Azeroth...

[rhorle]

Not adding gameplay people had in the three expacs before is simply a deevolution rather than an evolution. An evolution would have been to add a system like that with real gearing progression rather than removing them completely only because pure borrowed power systems were removed.

How is that the case when you said the same game play being cut wasn't good or engaged the same people you are saying is hurt by the content being removed? You are just creating reasons to hate on Blizzard and Retail even when they conflict with arguments you've made in the past.

Even your talk of evolution of the systems shows that you would complain if they were kept as is just as you complain when the system was cut even though you didn't like it.

[therumblings]

I'm going to have to disagree, and say you should be required to be social in an MMORPG. If I was in charge I would simply remove LFR entirely and just make normal queueable. I'm not sure if adding a queue to heroic and mythic raids would improve much.

[therumblings]

Torghast giving gear would sort of work because it basically already is a really easy dungeon with a ton of difficulties, the problem is you could just get all that gear on your own without ever having to see another player. To me, that's problematic to the philosophy of the game.

[infinitemeridian]

Visions gave gear, mythic level (or close to it) I believe even. They should definitely bring something like that back.

[therumblings]

It would simply adress 65% of the players regarding a study that shows that this precentage of players mainly plays solo in a MMORPG.

That's what world content should be for, and SL world quests are not at all good to fill those players' desires.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Ahh a study....definitely evidence.

[huth]

Btw, does anybody knows if Argus was based on Egyptian mythology?

Unlikely, there's a whole bunch of greek mythological characters named Argus/Argos.

Which fits with the whole Pantheon being styled on Greek Gods thing.

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Would you be happy if Blizzard silently removed heroic and mythic raids? This is what actually happens to casual gamers by not reimplementing solo or even solo queue content like Torghast, Islands or Warfronts in Dragonflight.

Except that change isn't quiet at all. So it would be more like Blizzard announcing they're removing them.

[rhorle]

It would simply adress 65% of the players regarding a study that shows that this precentage of players mainly plays solo in a MMORPG.

Then doesn't that mean that your ideas of matchmade group play won't address the 65% of players that play solo? Solo implies not in a group and not simply queuing for group content.

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The fact is that 60% to 65% percent of people want to play solo because when you don’t have a game that forces you to group that’s how the breakdown tends to be.

Did you read the rest of that quote from the study/person? Don't want to be forced to group which is what "matchmade" content is. Forcing you to group up. So even your ideas of how to fix the game don't mesh with the studies and research you use to cite evidence of the superiority of your concepts. Strange, right?

[Ilir]

That tauren guy doesn't know what gameplay is.

Dragonflight will ahve tons of casual content by the looks of it.

Chill out.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Nah. Elemental based form. The elementals predate Old gods and the Titans couldn't kill them as they would always manifest back on Azeroth. So they had to be imprisoned. It seems pretty clear the elementals are tied to the world soul. In Dragon Flight we even have dragons empowered by the elements that rivals the power of the Titan empowered Dragons.

Why are people trying to debate with someone who's answer for everything is Void Elf lmao

[Khaza-R]

Visions gave gear, mythic level (or close to it) I believe even. They should definitely bring something like that back.

Heroic raid ilvl for a 5 mask clear. Each mask you could pull off made the ilvl scale higher. So it was a true solo progression system.

I actually think it was the best template for what solo progression could look like but I am curious how popular it was. I never really see people praising it, even though it offered great rewards and challenging gameplay.

[rhorle]

I actually think it was the best template for what solo progression could look like but I am curious how popular it was. I never really see people praising it, even though it offered great rewards and challenging gameplay.

It was also not balanced at all. If I remember correctly Demon Hunters could basically cheese all the mechanics and had a way easier time.

[Chickat]

Great interview, I hope they give Asmongold more interviews in the future. He asks good questions.

Yeah I do understand the hate asmon used to get but he's been a pretty good boy recently. He did so the spit thing about a year ago, but he's no where near as bad as he used to be.

[Khaza-R]

It was also not balanced at all. If I remember correctly Demon Hunters could basically cheese all the mechanics and had a way easier time.

A lot of specs could, BM comes to mind as well. But then again it was never tuned so that's like expecting a raid to be balanced at release state. Not really a fault of the system though, more the lack of effort into balancing it.

[Raetary]

If a planet houses a world soul...is there is any chance it houses 2 world souls? like twins?

What if Azeroth isn't corrupted but divided in 2...if Sargeras sword is a mourneblade...it can divide Azeroth...

Titan planets aren't impregnated, the planet forms as a protective layer over the world soul.

And why would the sword be a mournblade?

[Ilir]

They announced to remove borrowed power. And forget to mention they also remove hundreds of hours of gameplay in matchmade or solo content they had implmeneted in 3 expacs before.

Just imagine: There is nothing that replaces the gameplay of Islands, Warfronts and Torghast in Dragonflight. Torghast actually was not that bad, it could have worked if it dropped real gear.

Probably that is just another double edged sword we know the devs for for years.

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Imagine you only had world quests as gameplay in WoW. Would you continue to play it?

Just another stunt to reduce development effort. And close to noone even realizes it during the hype. Exactly that is the reason i ask people to always check for downsides in anything people like Hazzikostas announce. They sell you a deevolution as a new feature.

But it's not only world quests.

he said there will be loads of stuff to unlock via reputation (renown), exploration and rewards for dragonriding.

He said he will based the end game "casual content" like Zereth Mortis and zones will have stuff to unlock/discover etc.

If it's only WQ, then I agree with you but it doesn't seem that way from what they said.

[boyzma]

Mythic+ and Raiding exists. It's never been easier than it is now to start doing it.

He's just complaining to complain. Blizzard could give everyone and their dog exactly everything they want and he would still find something to bitch about.