Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nightshade711]

We all know Azeroth’s form will be a Dracthyr obviously

[rhorle]

As in Argus had horns & pointed ears, a bit like Draenei. So it makes sense they would look similar to the sapient races who originated there.

Was Argus shown without his helm on?

Edit: No, he was never shown without his helm on. So horns are not known but the ears are and they do not look like a Dreanei.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...thout_his_hat/

[Luck4]

We all know Azeroth’s form will be a Dracthyr obviously

Poor Azeroth, she doesn't deserve that...

[therumblings]

I give Dragonflight one month before 50% of the players leave again. Simply because there is no instanced gameplay like Torghast, Islands or Warfronts for casual gamers anymore. And i doubt world content alone will give enough gameplay.

How did the game survive before Legion then?

[therumblings]

I am sure it will "survive" in Dragonflilght as well. With a few hundred thousand players after some months. Depends entirely on how much gamplay most players get.

Dragonflight's amount of systems was the norm before Legion, which was the height of the game, which many many players are begging to go back to it.

[rhorle]

I give Dragonflight one month before 50% of the players leave again. Simply because there is no instanced gameplay like Torghast, Islands or Warfronts for casual gamers anymore. And i doubt world content alone will give enough gameplay.

It is strange how in the past you said those things weren't enough to keep people subscribed or challenged but now you are using them as a reason why people stayed subscribed.

[therumblings]

No, players never asked to remove gameplay. Players asked to remove pure borrowed power systems and time gates.

Surely you aren't pretending that people actually liked those systems, right? I enjoy Torghast, but I know a ton of people hated having to do it.

[ChairmanKaga]

That would be interesting. Honestly in a Revamp it'd be a cool idea to make it an actual Night Elf city now that the Highborne joined with the rest of the Night Elves.

Hey now thats a great suggestion for the Night Elves after the charcoaling of their old place.

[therumblings]

I do not pretend people liked borrowed power. But i believe people would like instanced content that gives gearing progression.

Mythic+ and Raiding exists. It's never been easier than it is now to start doing it.

[therumblings]

You're never getting a solo gearing progression on par with M+ and raids. It's just not happening. Not only is that anti-social, but also it would be incredibly frustrating for players to be unable to beat the content and not bring a friend with them. What's wrong with dungeons and raids? This stuff has worked for a long time for a reason, and players want to go back to what worked. Example: Talent Trees.

[KainneAbsolute]

If a planet houses a world soul...is there is any chance it houses 2 world souls? like twins?

What if Azeroth isn't corrupted but divided in 2...if Sargeras sword is a mourneblade...it can divide Azeroth...

[rhorle]

Not adding gameplay people had in the three expacs before is simply a deevolution rather than an evolution. An evolution would have been to add a system like that with real gearing progression rather than removing them completely only because pure borrowed power systems were removed.

How is that the case when you said the same game play being cut wasn't good or engaged the same people you are saying is hurt by the content being removed? You are just creating reasons to hate on Blizzard and Retail even when they conflict with arguments you've made in the past.

Even your talk of evolution of the systems shows that you would complain if they were kept as is just as you complain when the system was cut even though you didn't like it.

[therumblings]

I'm going to have to disagree, and say you should be required to be social in an MMORPG. If I was in charge I would simply remove LFR entirely and just make normal queueable. I'm not sure if adding a queue to heroic and mythic raids would improve much.

[therumblings]

Torghast giving gear would sort of work because it basically already is a really easy dungeon with a ton of difficulties, the problem is you could just get all that gear on your own without ever having to see another player. To me, that's problematic to the philosophy of the game.

[infinitemeridian]

Visions gave gear, mythic level (or close to it) I believe even. They should definitely bring something like that back.

[therumblings]

It would simply adress 65% of the players regarding a study that shows that this precentage of players mainly plays solo in a MMORPG.

That's what world content should be for, and SL world quests are not at all good to fill those players' desires.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Ahh a study....definitely evidence.

[huth]

Btw, does anybody knows if Argus was based on Egyptian mythology?

Unlikely, there's a whole bunch of greek mythological characters named Argus/Argos.

Which fits with the whole Pantheon being styled on Greek Gods thing.

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Would you be happy if Blizzard silently removed heroic and mythic raids? This is what actually happens to casual gamers by not reimplementing solo or even solo queue content like Torghast, Islands or Warfronts in Dragonflight.

Except that change isn't quiet at all. So it would be more like Blizzard announcing they're removing them.

[rhorle]

It would simply adress 65% of the players regarding a study that shows that this precentage of players mainly plays solo in a MMORPG.

Then doesn't that mean that your ideas of matchmade group play won't address the 65% of players that play solo? Solo implies not in a group and not simply queuing for group content.

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The fact is that 60% to 65% percent of people want to play solo because when you don’t have a game that forces you to group that’s how the breakdown tends to be.

Did you read the rest of that quote from the study/person? Don't want to be forced to group which is what "matchmade" content is. Forcing you to group up. So even your ideas of how to fix the game don't mesh with the studies and research you use to cite evidence of the superiority of your concepts. Strange, right?

[Ilir]

That tauren guy doesn't know what gameplay is.

Dragonflight will ahve tons of casual content by the looks of it.

Chill out.