1. #56201
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I think Mythic 0 should be available through Match Making.
    Also think Mythic dungeons should have a second track that is not timed but keeps the weekly lockout with two difficulties that are equivalent to +9 and +18 and count like clearing +6 and +15 for the Vault.

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    I would not call it easy. Heroic is reasonably challenging. Most of it is not hard but the endboss is almost always harder than the first few Mythic bosses and you still need to pay attention to mechanics and perform reasonably well to have a decent Heroic clear. But yeah, the difficulty is more approachable and more importantly it is flex. And yes Flex is great for PuGs but it is even greater for guilds. Only reason I still lead raids is flex.
    Mythic dungeons being available through the automatic matchmaking would just make the HC dungeons even more irrelevant.
    You need that easy entry into organized groups so that players learn how to actually find a group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manypillars View Post
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  3. #56203
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Why do people keep acting like M+ queuing would be anything other than a total shitshow?
    I don't see why it would be if kept to fairly low keystones and gated by ilevel. Most heroic groups, even at the start when people are undergeared and don't know the instance well, go pretty smooth and quickly. Low keystones aren't much different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I don't see why it would be if kept to fairly low keystones and gated by ilevel. Most heroic groups, even at the start when people are undergeared and don't know the instance well, go pretty smooth and quickly. Low keystones aren't much different.
    Low keys can still fail horribly but there is a point in a season where a queue system could work with M+. Say up to +5. It might encourage more people to manually group if they see that the low timers really are not a big deal. With world content able to reward up to +8/9 it really makes sense to have the lower M+ content able to be queued. I think LFR should be normal loot and a little harder for the same reason.

    Let the queues be a time-gated stepping stone.
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    I wonder if Blizzard intends to revamp/update any older dungeons again. In MoP they did so with Scarlet Monestary and in WoD with Razorfen Kraul.


    With DF being similar in feeling and theme to MoP, also being that it's been over 3 expansions since they did this, what do you guys think are the odds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    I wonder if Blizzard intends to revamp/update any older dungeons again. In MoP they did so with Scarlet Monestary and in WoD with Razorfen Kraul.


    With DF being similar in feeling and theme to MoP, also being that it's been over 3 expansions since they did this, what do you guys think are the odds?
    Isn't one of 8 DF dungeons revamped Uldaman?

  7. #56207
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Isn't one of 8 DF dungeons revamped Uldaman?
    Thats not confirmed yet but probably yes.

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    I understood it as it was coming out during the Prepatch event.

  9. #56209
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsirk View Post
    I understood it as it was coming out during the Prepatch event.
    I'm assuming it will be like the UBRS revamp in the WoD Prepatch.

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    Is Zorbrix teasing a new build? Or did I miss something else?

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    He's teasing the alpha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    I'm assuming it will be like the UBRS revamp in the WoD Prepatch.
    I really thought I heard it in an interview that it was. I guess we'll find out eventually. lol

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    He was probably saying that in regards to Blizzard being hit by a DDOS attack right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsirk View Post
    I really thought I heard it in an interview that it was. I guess we'll find out eventually. lol

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    He was probably saying that in regards to Blizzard being hit by a DDOS attack right now.
    Damn Ddosers


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  14. #56214
    Uldaman will probably be one of the eight dungeons because why else would they put effort into making a brand new wing just for prepatch so it will be like UBRS. Not all dungeons need to be on the dragon isles.

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    Had a thought about the 4chan leak.

    If that person only saw some press images and info, they could've thought Dracthyr were the dragons only, and that the visage form was actually a new allied race (because of them being male belf/female human) It would also explain why they said "pre order allied race" instead of races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wowrefugee View Post
    Had a thought about the 4chan leak.

    If that person only saw some press images and info, they could've thought Dracthyr were the dragons only, and that the visage form was actually a new allied race (because of them being male belf/female human) It would also explain why they said "pre order allied race" instead of races.
    How do you guess a word like Dracthyr? It seems like it was word of mouth. (For example, mistaking Evoker for Invoker)

  17. #56217
    Aside from Blackrock Depths, Gnomeregan, and Maraudon, what dungeons are in need of a revamp?

    I hope whenever they do get around to Blackrock Depths, they don't make it a completely linear experience. I really like how meandering that place is, it'd be cool if a revamp could somehow preserve the spirit of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    How do you guess a word like Dracthyr?
    For literally the billionth time: The 4chan leak was posted AFTER "Dracthyr" had already been discussed on these forums for almost an entire day. There's nothing to suggest it was guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutineer View Post
    Aside from Blackrock Depths, Gnomeregan, and Maraudon, what dungeons are in need of a revamp?

    I hope whenever they do get around to Blackrock Depths, they don't make it a completely linear experience. I really like how meandering that place is, it'd be cool if a revamp could somehow preserve the spirit of that.

    Personally speaking, of the remaining vanilla WoW dungeons... I would say the ones that just have not been touched.


    By a revamp/update I mean ones to reflect current lore/story and current times overall... not to match a theme of an expansion. For example, Upper Blackrock Spire in WoD and Return to Karazhan (originally a raid, yes) were updated to reflect what was going on for that expansion only. Those dungeons are now stuck in the "loop" of dealing with the Iron Horde trying to blow up Stormwind and the Burning Legion still invading Azeroth. Scarlet Halls and RFK reflect more recent developments for those respective areas and inhabitants of the overall times. Same with Blackfathom Deeps and Scholomance.


    Now... that being said, I specifically would love to see Dire Maul, Blackrock Depths and *maybe* Zul'Farrak.


    Actually... Zul'Farrak above all others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutineer View Post
    Aside from Blackrock Depths, Gnomeregan, and Maraudon, what dungeons are in need of a revamp?

    I hope whenever they do get around to Blackrock Depths, they don't make it a completely linear experience. I really like how meandering that place is, it'd be cool if a revamp could somehow preserve the spirit of that.
    Definitely Dire Maul.
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