Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Valysar]

That what he always does, teasing something big when it's only "meh" in the end, get used to it. He is no messia

(right now, you can read "alpha soon" for example, this can be mistaken but naive ppl will fall for it...)

[Marlamin]

Here's how you do it:

"Hey guys, exciting stuff coming on Wednesday for the stream! (Disclaimer: I have no inside info on Dragonflight news, this isn't that.)"

That'd be preferable obviously, but that's clearly never the case.

It is what it is, move on and go back to waiting for the next sliver of WoW news that'll satisfy everyone for less than a day, as the cycle goes.

[Hyrja]

Same with how he said wotlk classic would be more like wotlk++ with tons of changes and improvements to the game, take everything he tries to hype up with a grain of salt. The guy lost all his credibility long ago.

[Lorca]

Well, this news drought is becoming exasperating...

[Valysar]

Yeah, it feels like they are in "Well take your trailer, some interviews, and don't bother us for 2 months untill alpha starts" mode. x)

[therumblings]

What's even weirder is the fact it's been over a month now and we haven't gotten any news on the talent preview that they claimed they wanted us to see as soon as possible. Why wait this long to show them if beta is right around the corner?

[Raetary]

The silence is defeaning.

They could at least post the Dracthyr customization blogs.

[Atriel]

What's even weirder is the fact it's been over a month now and we haven't gotten any news on the talent preview that they claimed they wanted us to see as soon as possible. Why wait this long to show them if beta is right around the corner?

I don't think it was a preview, I think they wanted the actual system to be out there ASAP, as in, for testing and to allow info sites to have time to make new calculators for them for players.

[Sondrelk]

The silence is defeaning.

They could at least post the Dracthyr customization blogs.

I have to assume at this point that something has been delayed. Otherwise the only reason I can see for this silence is that Blizzard is stretching the content they can give to its absolute limits in order to ensure a smoother drought.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Yeah, its' not very often that we go 3 weeks without any noise being made from their side whether thats' a blue post or something else.

Looks like they just aren't ready and with Overwatch 2 getting more info which will probably be sparse with just 1 new Hero reveal and mayhaps a new map on June 16th.

IDK I am very confused right now, I thought they would get the talent calculators out for fun rather quickly and stuff. But, then it just went back into the crevice of waiting for the Alpha to unlock and well I guess we're in that point where it should unlock at the earliest and then June being when it is supposed to do so.

I mean the Interviews didn't really give you anything that would tell you about the expansion being content rich either other than a new scapegoat to blame if the expansion has little to no content in the World Content Team.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I just love the fact that in no way shape or form do they want to confirm 3 Major Patches due to the legality issues of them confirming it and then not being able to deliver it when they Cut & Run again due to being given the mandate of the community to Cut & Run after 10.2.

Honestly this entire cycle has been weird. The PR Approach they took with 10.0 Reveal was bad, the whole mimicking Shadowlands Alpha Content Creator Interviews but pre-Alpha state, the whole weird angle of "Oh we're really far ahead development wise" except we can't show or give the talent calculators, oh and again the only reliance of more content production in the game stems from a new team on the Warcraft Team that is dedicated to World Content as holding down the fort.

[rhorle]

I just love the fact that in no way shape or form do they want to confirm 3 Major Patches due to the legality issues of them confirming it and then not being able to deliver it when they Cut & Run again due to being given the mandate of the community to Cut & Run after 10.2.

There is no legality issue. They didn't even face legal troubles when the box for WotLK had a feature that was cut before launch of the game.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

There is no legality issue. They didn't even face legal troubles when the box for WotLK had a feature that was cut before launch of the game.

Well, I am glad I can use that talking point then.

Doesn't make it less bad in the view of the product though. No confirmation on that side of things is as bad faith as can be in a game where traditions are the only thing that you can hold onto for guidance of the upcoming products and the content within said products.

I have zero confidence they will ship 3 Major Patches anymore and the best part is that there will be an incredible amount of people who will come back at me with the got'cha when they ship 3 Major Patches for Dragonflight as if the company doesn't now in the current moment have the mandate to ship less content to the consumer by the virtues of traditionalism which again is a sketch deal for the consumer in the end to invest in.

But yeah, again I find this whole period extremely odd. The lack of preorders on Reveal and all of this weird set up while still feeling like they got another embargo ahead. Its' all odd.

If anything the interviews tell a whole different story on the state of the product than what the game director want to express the state of product to be in and well with time ticking it sure doesn't seem like they've got this under lock and load as they seem to intend for people to believe.

[Dracullus]

I have to assume at this point that something has been delayed. Otherwise the only reason I can see for this silence is that Blizzard is stretching the content they can give to its absolute limits in order to ensure a smoother drought.

Do you seriously think month of no Dragonflight news after reveal + big interview campaign is sign that something is delayed? Why people always act like it's their first expansion? Not to mention there is still one SL patch to go that is focus right now.

[rhorle]

Doesn't make it less bad in the view of the product though. No confirmation on that side of things is as bad faith as can be in a game where traditions are the only thing that you can hold onto for guidance of the upcoming products and the content within said products.

Are you new to WoW? They have never given 100% certainty on anything they have talked about so it is a bit strange to use that as something now. It really just seems like you are looking for any reason to manufacture outrage.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Are you new to WoW? They have never given 100% certainty on anything they have talked about so it is a bit strange to use that as something now. It really just seems like you are looking for any reason to manufacture outrage.

Okay, well I don't think thats a healthy thing for consumers to deal with. If anything this whole concept is bad when they break those traditions. If the consumer has lost the standard that the developer provided it becomes imperative for them to restore the standard of which the product consists of to the consumer. I don't really think this is an illogical ask.

If the product cannot be questioned then it should have standards to abide by and if those standards are broken that's a huge problem because they are the quantifiable metric of what the consumer receives when they put in a purchase of the product.

The fact that the developers are non committal is not some sort of logical decision made with good intentions it has a purpose and intent of which you've relayed to me just now by making the "you new or what" argument as if I don't fucking know how this company operates.

[Sondrelk]

Do you seriously think month of no Dragonflight news after reveal + big interview campaign is sign that something is delayed? Why people always act like it's their first expansion? Not to mention there is still one SL patch to go that is focus right now.

Because it's still a month wait for what the developers said would be a quick turnover.
Usually this is mitigated because we have more info to go on with Blizzcon, as well as the last patch of the relevant expansion being around the corner.

The fact that Ion said, and then confirmed that the expansion is very far along, as well as stating that they want to give us more info as soon as possible does make it weird that they have not said anything yet.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I mean I still believe there's another embargo with info which consists of more customizations and the allied race and the future of Allied Races. But, IDK. Again, this expansion hinges on the World Content Team doing an insane job since there's not additional content seemingly in other departments.

I worry a lot about the post-launch state of community feedback if the World Content Team does not accomplish their role well and what direction the game might take with that feedback.

Honestly, I still believe that they are going to emulate the Legion post-launch timeline but at the same time I worry about the situation with employees leaving after the product is shipped. It will be interesting to see what shape the post-launch environment takes this time around. Again, hopefully they can actually accomplish a great post-launch content schedule due to the bare nature of the base product.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Because it's still a month wait for what the developers said would be a quick turnover.
Usually this is mitigated because we have more info to go on with Blizzcon, as well as the last patch of the relevant expansion being around the corner.

The fact that Ion said, and then confirmed that the expansion is very far along, as well as stating that they want to give us more info as soon as possible does make it weird that they have not said anything yet.

Patience is key, we'll know soon enough.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Again from the interviews, either the World Content Team will put a lot of content in the game or they have made the product as bare as possible for a great Legion Style Content Lineup post-launch and on schedule to get back in the groove of things.

Unless there's extreme amounts of content that will be datamined on first unencryptable builds, I get the vibe that this is a foundational expansion on which to build something great for the next expansion and considering the lore hints so far with 11.0 it seems to build into the whole concept of a World Revamp. But, again whether that actually plays out or if we're instead headed for Light vs Void Invasion on Azeroth expansion remains to be seen.