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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Let it be known if multiple affiliated content creators are making videos about an allied race you know isn't happening, or you say you want to show off talent trees "ASAP" and then your only response is to go silent for a month, that's unacceptable.
    And yet it is still normal because Blizzard has always "gone silent" after making reveals or talking about things at events. You might have the occasional blog post or interview but there were always peaks and valleys to information. And lets not pretend this is an actual problem. Because you'll still be around to discuss the game regardless, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boyzma View Post
    No....learn how we write dates.....11 is the friggin month, then 8, 9 ect. Jesus
    I would argue that way of writting dates makes absolutely no sense save for an anglo-saxon. The rest of the world wrte them like normal people, either from long to short (year/month/day) or from short to long (day/month/year)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    And yet it is still normal because Blizzard has always "gone silent" after making reveals or talking about things at events. You might have the occasional blog post or interview but there were always peaks and valleys to information. And lets not pretend this is an actual problem. Because you'll still be around to discuss the game regardless, right?
    Ion said they want release talent trees "ahead of Alpha", not "ASAP" in this interview, so Ersula comment is lie/manipulation, which of course surprise nobody.

    Same with "5.5 month late reveal", cause there were no Blizzcon xD. It's so stupid take I don't know where to begin. OBVIOUSLY DF won't launch on date Blizzard could picture two years ago. Since then SL launch and every single patch had their owns delays. Usual Blizzcon November '21 reveal would point to 2022 release, which obviously won't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    I would argue that way of writting dates makes absolutely no sense save for an anglo-saxon. The rest of the world wrte them like normal people, either from long to short (year/month/day) or from short to long (day/month/year)
    Well, of course the people that think going 12-3-1760 on distance conversions would think that is sensible. While the people that go 10-10-10 think they should take their pants of their head.

  5. #56805
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    You expected release in 2022? If not, where you got that impression that Alpha won't start during summer?
    I'm not expecting a 2022 release, my impression was they would get the talent blogs out mid May so we could play around with it quite some time before alpha presumably early June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    And yet it is still normal because Blizzard has always "gone silent" after making reveals or talking about things at events. You might have the occasional blog post or interview but there were always peaks and valleys to information. And lets not pretend this is an actual problem. Because you'll still be around to discuss the game regardless, right?
    Yeah I guess you're right. It's too much to ask for Ion to know the difference between May & June. Or April from November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Well, of course the people that think going 12-3-1760 on distance conversions would think that is sensible. While the people that go 10-10-10 think they should take their pants of their head.
    1) No one divides miles into yards.
    2) 10 is great until you have to divide into thirds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Yeah I guess you're right. It's too much to ask for Ion to know the difference between May & June. Or April from November.
    What are you even whining about at this point?
    Last edited by Hitei; 2022-05-22 at 05:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Yeah I guess you're right. It's too much to ask for Ion to know the difference between May & June. Or April from November.
    Pretty sure Blizzard never specified any month. However your account date should mean you have enough experience with Blizzard to know that delays and things happen. Just relax.
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  9. #56809
    Lack of 9.2.5 news sucks.

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    Btw I know people don't want borrowed power back but what if we could still have max level progression but NO borrowed power.
    Imagine this. Once you reach specific goals at max level you get to unlock a talent point. Throughout the expansion you can earn up to 5 additional talent points this way with the extra points capped at each patch at a specific value.
    When next xpac comes, we get 10 new levels. If you got all 5 talent points during Dragonflight then you will still level but you won't get any new talent points for the first few levels; the cap will be the same. Nothing gained but also nothing lost, your power was not borrowed just available early On a new player or character, they can get what you got just by leveling.
    This would allow for them to add some extra options even during the xpac, make your progression more varied than just gear but would keep you from actually losing power.

    As for the issue of talent point bloat (which will happen regardless), the obvious solution is to just add a couple of strong passives with multiple ranks every couple of expacs that soak a lot of points to keep the permutations manageable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Btw I know people don't want borrowed power back but what if we could still have max level progression but NO borrowed power.
    Imagine this. Once you reach specific goals at max level you get to unlock a talent point. Throughout the expansion you can earn up to 5 additional talent points this way with the extra points capped at each patch at a specific value.
    When next xpac comes, we get 10 new levels. If you got all 5 talent points during Dragonflight then you will still level but you won't get any new talent points for the first few levels; the cap will be the same. Nothing gained but also nothing lost, your power was not borrowed just available early On a new player or character, they can get what you got just by leveling.
    This would allow for them to add some extra options even during the xpac, make your progression more varied than just gear but would keep you from actually losing power.

    As for the issue of talent point bloat (which will happen regardless), the obvious solution is to just add a couple of strong passives with multiple ranks every couple of expacs that soak a lot of points to keep the permutations manageable.
    No, no, no, no, no!!! Keep the game alt-friendly, don't create another borrowed power like system. Sorry but that's a horrible idea. They already stated they want you just to level and gear up and be done with your character. And that's fine.

    #TEAMGIRAFFE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    1) No one divides miles into yards.
    2) 10 is great until you have to divide into thirds.
    1) That doesn't change that a mile is 1760 yards. Dividing it into feet isn't smarter, either.
    2) It isn't when you have to do thirds, either. Nor do you ever need to ask yourself what it is in the next unit up or down; there aren't any, it's all meters.

    Besides, the US system is still based on the SI standard which is metric. It just puts some fancy names on arbtirarily chosen metric distances and pretends it's doing something special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlands-is-fake View Post
    The problem with Blizzard's communication is its inconsistency. This always happens:
    That's a self-contradictory statement. Inconsistent means that there is no "always happens", but that it constantly changes. If there's a specific pattern that always occurs, it might not be great, but it is nonetheless consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    That's a self-contradictory statement. Inconsistent means that there is no "always happens", but that it constantly changes. If there's a specific pattern that always occurs, it might not be great, but it is nonetheless consistent.
    Most funny thing is that there is no radio silence. People literally make shit up about what devs said after DF reveal & how Blizzard dealt with expac reveals in the past to fit their narrative we are in some radio silence right now and things look grim. Oh, and most important all 9.2.5 info is discarded like this patch wasn't part of WoW at all.

    There WAS radio silence during Shadowlands, even twice, but since 9.1.5 PTR started last September flow of news & content is best since Legion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Which would all be normal if you just ignore the Dragonflight announcement was itself already 5 & a half months late.
    All of their development since SL Release had been 6 months late.

  15. #56815
    If we dont get any DF/9.2.5 blue posts this week somethings wrong..

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    As much as I want more 9.2.5/DF news, not having anything this week doesn't mean the sky is falling or anything like. There are plenty of reasons why we might not have it that aren't pure doom. Perhaps they are trying to stretch out the release dates to give more time on DF, or perhaps they are trying to line up their PR dominos as we've seen in recent years. If they are planning some sort of excellent pre-order surprise to come out with 9.2.5 in the encrypted content, then it makes sense not to have too many places to show their hand until things are ready.

    It's not like we haven't been seeing things come to the 9.2.5 PTR, we've seen plenty. It's also not like they stopped working on DF, they might be moving forward with plans or altering their course somewhat based on feedback given from the reveal. We'll find out more in alpha/beta. Even if we don't get DF alpha until July or August, they'd still be on track for a Q1 2023 release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlands-is-fake View Post
    Isn't there?

    Link me the official Blizzard communications that bring us new news since the developer interview rounds after the 10.0 reveal.

    Not talking about re-cap summaries. Not talking about some blurb concerning WotLKC.

    Tangible, new information about Dragonflight and 9.2.5.
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzar...raids-3-326987

    https://www.wowhead.com/news/shadowl...ards-of-326991

    https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonf...essions-327009

    https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcomin...pillars-327117

    Of course most are clarifications about 9.2.5 and Season 4. DF interviews after reveal were also huge dump of info that required some clarification.

    But most important: why you require me to provide "Tangible, new information about Dragonflight and 9.2.5" 4 weeks after huge information dump? I didn't say that Blizzard provided huge news every week. I said that people claiming last 4 weeks were radio silence are lying and/or manipulating. When Blizzard clarified things, updated PTR build every few days, responded to feedback (changing season 4 mount) between interview campaign and now, it's not radio silence. No amount of screaming will change that.

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    I didn't know that good communication means "Oh yeah, they need a huge blogpost every week".

    What company does that lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    I would argue that way of writting dates makes absolutely no sense save for an anglo-saxon. The rest of the world wrte them like normal people, either from long to short (year/month/day) or from short to long (day/month/year)
    British people, who have a much higher proportion of Anglo-Saxons than Americans, write it day/month/year and always have.

    This is not an "Anglo-Saxon" thing. This is an United States of America thing.
    "A youtuber said so."

    "... some wow experts being interviewed..."

    "According to researchers from Wowhead..."

  20. #56820
    Some people really need to calm their tits and find some hobby besides WoW. It's not world-ending and no foreshadowing of the end of WoW if we don't get tangible news for some weeks. Geez.

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