Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Alanar]

I mean you were the one offended by a possible rainbow effect possibly being LGBTQIA+ representation.

I am not offended by it, those are your words. But again, what is it what bothers you exactly?

[wowrefugee]

When she picks it up... it will obviously transform into a rainbow looking sword.

lol. lmao.

Guy Who Definitely Doesnt Have An Issue Keeps Posting About It.

[Alanar]

Just read what you've quoted. Lol. A prismatic, or rainbow, HS toy fits the lore and story of Dragonflight and the Drac'thyr. You are the one that made it about a topic that you don't care about and don't want shoved in your face. Yet you are also the one that has decided to shove it in your face. You are the one that is choosing to associate anything rainbow with that something you don't want in a game.

Only you can choose to stop making that association.

I made that reference once ye, as I said it would be silly if that was going to be the case imo as I dont care about that subject nor am I looking for it. It was a joke in case you missed it, but since you asked.

I wasnt even thinking about that post whole day until you guys went in and brought it up again. Hence I didnt even know how the f I offended you as you just hopped on.

Its really up to you, if you want to keep discussing this, I moved on ages ago, I dont know what else I can tell you.

[Raetary]

For someone who has moved on you sure keep replying.

[Alanar]

lol. lmao.

Guy Who Definitely Doesnt Have An Issue Keeps Posting About It.

Keeps posting, >.> little dramaqueen.

O wow I dont even remember the post, but I lold about the post. That was funny.

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For someone who has moved on you sure keep replying.

Ye I am to generous to reply to y'all is what you mean. Nice comeback Arafal lol.

[rhorle]

It was a joke in case you missed it, but since you asked.

It was hardly a joke and you've defended it several times as what you think. Also strange that you "forgot" about the joke despite it being referenced multiple times by others and yourself in future responses.

[Alanar]

It was hardly a joke and you've defended it several times as what you think. Also strange that you "forgot" about the joke despite it being referenced multiple times by others and yourself in future responses.

For me it was, but sorry you feel this way.

[rhorle]

For me it was, but sorry you feel this way.

It is funny that you got angry over a association you decided to make? I don't think you understand jokes or humor in general and are just trying to justify saying something stupidly offensive now that others didn't agree with your take.

Watch it being just a a DF heartstone toy. Uses al the dragonflight powers (rainbow), unknowingly/knowngly ending up like a support thing for lbtq. >.>

Ofc you don't. Look I dont care about it, that is why I dont want stuff like that getting shoved in my face. I mean, why does it have to be a thing in the first place?

[Aucald]

Let's drop this rolling derail about a toy item from some time ago and real-world gender debate and return to the actual topic of the thread.

[Alanar]

something stupidly offensive

I just dont see it that way, but again I am sorry you feel this way. I dont know what else to tell you.

[Khaza-R]

So anyways, the Winter Queen questline seems possibly related to Sylvanas freeing souls from the Maw.

I sort of wonder if the Alliance and Horde have different questlines relating to the Sylvanas / Anduin interaction or if its not faction specific like the Calia questline.

[wowrefugee]

Looks like servers will come up 6PM EST on Tuesday. Sweet.

[AngerFork]

Looks like servers will come up 6PM EST on Tuesday. Sweet.

Feels surprisingly long for the stuff we've had advertised thus far, though I'm sure cross faction is a bit of a task to work through at this point.

[ExiHext]

Feels surprisingly long for the stuff we've had advertised thus far, though I'm sure cross faction is a bit of a task to work through at this point.

I have to admit I'm not mad that this is the first patch day in a long time that I'm not able to log in. Bugs, bugs, bugs. xD

[Nymrohd]

The truly interesting thing was that cross faction guilds worked for a while through a bug in the PTR and it seemed to work just fine (though it only worked for NEW guilds).

[Luck4]

The truly interesting thing was that cross faction guilds worked for a while through a bug in the PTR and it seemed to work just fine (though it only worked for NEW guilds).

Almost everyone that I've talked to about it, is thinking that Cross-faction Guilds are planned to come soon, or in the Dragonflight launch, but Blizzard never alluded to it, Ion avoided answering it so many times, and they've stopped calling it just Cross-faction, and are now using Cross-faction Instances.

I fear, that Cross-faction Guilds are neither planned nor being worked on right now.

[Chickat]

I mean unless that Q1 release comes with a Legion Post-launch schedule. I just don't feel optimistic about a Q1 date. It is expected to happen due to the change of owners though and getting out all the products before that is seemingly something they want to accomplish

I absolutely do hope that this won't be a rush to the finish line and even more severe attrition rate of post-shipping in which the product cannot have a good product cycle.

If we can't get out of that bad cycle, I mean that would be truly unfortunate. Mayhaps Microsoft could turn that around with better employee confidence and treatment. But at the same time, it could go the opposite direction and being too cozy with the employees seemingly could lead to further push for unionization.

Either way, again I don't think Q4 2022/Q1 2023 are good for the product unless there's confidence from the development team that they can put the game back on at least a major patch per 6 months schedule that has 3 major patches 3 minor patches.

I honestly am worried about the concept that they can even hit these targets with all the issues they have. I do not want to see another dry spell post-launch where they lock themselves in a bunker again.

They said they are quite far along back in April. We still have like 9-11 months until launch. I think Q1 IS them taking the time needed for a good product. If it was coming this year I would agree with you.

[rhorle]

Almost everyone that I've talked to about it, is thinking that Cross-faction Guilds are planned to come soon, or in the Dragonflight launch, but Blizzard never alluded to it, Ion avoided answering it so many times, and they've stopped calling it just Cross-faction, and are now using Cross-faction Instances.

In 2021 when talking about cross-faction raiding "coming soon" it was mentioned how hard it is trying to keep a high-end Alliance guild together in North America or a Horde one in Oceania. So most think that cross-faction guilds are the likely conclusion. Communities being newer might make it easier to implement and a good way to test if it functions well.

https://venturebeat.com/2021/11/01/w...oul-searching/

Ideally I'd like guilds to become more like sub-sections so you can better organize a community. For example community X would have a raiding guild and a pvp guild. You could belong to both for easier management. Cross-faction in general is a pretty big step for Blizzard to take so it is reasonable to think they are going to take baby steps so it is easier to revert if need be. Once you pull that ripcord it will be impossible to bring a faction divide back.

[Nymrohd]

I strongly believe they need to revitalize guild features. PuGing culture is not doing the social structure of the game any favors. Imo the best thing they can do is create strong incentives to join and do activities within a guild or community. I think Cata's guild features were brilliant and marred by the awful decision to add guild leveling (which was catastrophic to guilds in the game) and to a lesser extent by the fact that you can only join one guild.

Bring cosmetics and significant consumable rewards for completing guild challenges could alleviate the cost of raiding and letting people join multiple guilds would let people join large cross-faction raiding guilds/communities without having to sacrifice their social or RP guilds (or even their personal guilds).

If the hard coded nature of guilds limits what they can do with them, they could replicate guild features into communities and then just fold guilds into communities and effectively remove them.

[Luck4]

If the hard coded nature of guilds limits what they can do with them, they could replicate guild features into communities and then just fold guilds into communities and effectively remove them.

The only thing that is in the way of Communities becoming more prominent than Guilds in 9.2.5 is the fact that only guild groups can record boss kills, so unless you've got a guild group, your raid progression will not be tracked.

If Raider.IO / Wowprogress finds any way to track Communities' progression then Cross-faction Guilds will not be needed anymore.