1. #57721
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skildar View Post
    8 months seems too long to me whatever the situation. Below this it will depend on what other content they are able to deliver during that time.

    If they play it like they did during Legion, where mid tier you are served a new zone with new stories to enjoy then I'm seeing no issue. If they do it like they've planned Shadowlands then there is very little chances that I will enjoy myself after 3months of play each season.
    The clockwork 11 week patch cycle of Legion is probably the goal right? I could see it growing by a week or two but beyond that you start to feel the burnout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    It's not even three months yet for S3
    It went live on March 1st. So it is a few days short of 3 months. It is a good bet s3 will end at the end of June or mid July. Horde Hall of Fame has been filled for a while. Alliance is no where near being filled so it can't really be accounted for unless Blizzard does major nerfs. Could Season 3 go to August or something? Sure. The thing we all have to remember though is that nothing is set in stone even when Blizzard says what a season typically lasts.
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  3. #57723
    The Post-Launch support is definitely more important than whats' in at launch.

    The release date is whatever to me, people clinging to a quicker release for their own self-interest isn't really a problem to me. It's just kind of funny especially with the way things have been for the past 4 years.
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  4. #57724
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    The clockwork 11 week patch cycle of Legion is probably the goal right? I could see it growing by a week or two but beyond that you start to feel the burnout.
    To me this would be a healthy goal even if it is stretched to 13 weeks.

    I would say though that most likely the first 0.5 patch would probably not need to be big and with new zones as we're still discovering a new landmass. Some follow up quests chains like they did in patch 9.1 is fine, they could accompany this with a couple of extra raid bosses like they did with ToV and CotS as well. A nice addition like the horde-alliance assault or on smaller scale naga assault, a couple new reputations and hardcore challenges and we're cooking with gas.
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  5. #57725
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaesebrezen View Post
    If you now have a blizzard dev stating that "6-8 months is the ideal duration", then that's a pretty bad and sad statement - it's practically not supported by any data, wether it's past raid duration or actual clear rates.
    You're confusing "ideal" with "what we used in the past".

  6. #57726
    Well, none of us are mind readers. So it is unclear what context he was talking about. Either way, the product needs a better cycle from what we experienced in this expansion.
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  7. #57727
    Later this summer definitely suggests August or Sept imo.

    That being said, Blizzard's release schedules for retail and classic are kind of bizarre lately so who knows. Seems like something got shifted they are having to abruptly shuffle things around.

  8. #57728
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    You're confusing "ideal" with "what we used in the past".
    Well 7 or 8 month long season is far from ideal. It sounds like dev said 6-8 are intended because they screw it twice in SL with 7 months Nathria and 8 months Sanctum.

    5.5 month from Legion were perfect, especially since we had big patch -> 11 weeks -> season -> 11 weeks -> big patch schedule. Now they have two awesome ideas that would make 'Legion' schedule even better - bonus "drought" season and completely changing M+ rotation from season to season.

  9. #57729
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Later this summer definitely suggests August or Sept imo.

    That being said, Blizzard's release schedules for retail and classic are kind of bizarre lately so who knows. Seems like something got shifted they are having to abruptly shuffle things around.
    I think Season 4 starts in September and runs until Dragonflight is ready to launch. I don't think they'll hold back the Dragonflight launch because Season 4 has been out for only 3-4 months, and if something bad happens Season 4 could last for the usual 7-8 months with Dragonflight releasing on Q2 2023.

    One thing feels certain, Blizzard is preparing everything to release Dragonflight in 2023, not 2022.

    No signs of pre-order, alpha or beta yet, is another hint.
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  10. #57730
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    If they are encrypting a lot of things now then the story/leveling won't need public testing. Without complex systems, the "borrowed power" there isn't that much that needs testing. Testing talents and the things that need to be tested could happen relatively quickly if Blizzard wants. Relatively is the key word though since they've dragged their heels on 9.2.5 even though it was not feature heavy.

    Season 4 can end any time and Season 3 is likely ending in a few a weeks.

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    I forget what expansion it was but I remember them still actively testing on beta while releasing the prepatch as an "earlier build".
    it was SL actually lol

  11. #57731
    Big day is tomorrow. Can't wait to go back to just being a player and not browsing forums. General Discussion on the official forums is absolutely garbage.

    I'm still holding out for surprise Darkfallen AR with the texture in my profile pic being part of their heritage armor.

  12. #57732
    Quote Originally Posted by wowrefugee View Post
    Big day is tomorrow. Can't wait to go back to just being a player and not browsing forums. General Discussion on the official forums is absolutely garbage.

    I'm still holding out for surprise Darkfallen AR with the texture in my profile pic being part of their heritage armor.
    If you're EU I've met some amazing people on that forum!

  13. #57733
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    What are the chances of having pre-orders today?
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  14. #57734
    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    What are the chances of having pre-orders today?
    Hard to tell. Sounds obvious to start it today, but implementing patch and dealing with wave of preorders could be too scary for them. During BfA preorder was 2 weeks after 7.3.5 if I remember correctly (but patch week was BIG mess).

  15. #57735
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Not even then. S3 started on March 1st. Even a 6 month S3 would already put us at the beginning of September, which wouldn't even give us 3 months for S4.

    People just keep getting their dates wrong and deluding themself that a 2022 release is even remotely possible.
    Yeah that's exactly my point. There are 0 indicators or arguments for a 2022 release. Basically everything is hinting at a release in Q1/23 (heck even Q2/23 isn't out of question). At no point was a 2022 release something likely, it was mostly based on a lot of copium. 6 weeks of nothing after the announcement, I think the schedule is clear.
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  16. #57736
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlands-is-fake View Post
    FWIW it seems like some WoW devs are being a bit cryptic and teasing on Twitter about today's patch.
    Don't they always do that? "You'll never guess what I've been working on," "I'm excited for you to learn about this thing specifically," etc, and it turns out to be another battle pet or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Yeah that's exactly my point. There are 0 indicators or arguments for a 2022 release. Basically everything is hinting at a release in Q1/23 (heck even Q2/23 isn't out of question). At no point was a 2022 release something likely, it was mostly based on a lot of copium. 6 weeks of nothing after the announcement, I think the schedule is clear.
    If anything S4 allows them to delay if they have to.

  18. #57738
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    If anything S4 allows them to delay if they have to.
    Yep, they can prolong or shorten the season as they need. And if it's shorter than the shortest Shadowlands season (aka just 6 months) their statement is still true.
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  19. #57739
    We're in the endgame now
    Almost time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlands-is-fake View Post
    Well people teasing it include Terran Gregory, Christie Golden and some content devs.
    I'd say that probably just means cinematics, since it's the content Christie Golden, Terran Gregory work on. Whether it's pre rendered, in game, or whatever type of cinematic, we'll see. We know we'll see some in game ones at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    We're in the endgame now
    Almost time.

    I'd say that probably just means cinematics, since it's the content Christie Golden, Terran Gregory work on. Whether it's pre rendered, in game, or whatever type of cinematic, we'll see. We know we'll see some in game ones at least.
    That makes it even better IMO. Nothing we’ve seen thus far to my knowledge unencrypted would itself involve a cinematic which points to us at least getting some form of new non-PTR content today rather than having it delayed until later.

    That doesn’t necessarily mean pre-order bonuses, but it does mean there’s something to be excited about today specifically IMO.

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