I hope they fill the next week with talent posts, just like they spoiled us with class posts back in legion times.
The talent tree stuff looks interesting to me but as I don't play DK and have the barest knowledge of Druid, the examples right now don't mean much to me.
Waiting on Mage, Monk, and Warrior.
Nah I'm not hardcore and I plan on having at least 4 or 5 builds per spec.
Raiding single target build.
Raiding aoe build.
Mythic plus build.
Battleground build.
Arena build.
World questing build.
Times 3 specs and thats pretty awesome.
Also unpopular opinion. It's great that the admit that players can make bad builds. If a build can be bad they means there's lots of choices to make. That bad build might be good in a certain situation anyways.
On the interupt situation. There might be a raid fight where you don't need an interupt, but maybe some more healing is needed so you pick a healing spell instead. Tons of examples could be made.
Ye, no. That is not the case when said ability is crucial for a spec to work. It may not be THE main mechanic of a spec (wounds), but it is important enough to have lots of synergies down the road (plus class fantasy of a summoner). It works for Frost Mages with water ele, but not here. Some abilities are just too core to a spec.
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I think it is clear you are likely hardcore but have moved the line for what constitutes hardcore for whatever reason. That isn't a casual mindset in the slightest. It isn't great that a build can be bad. It doesn't mean there is any more choice then if all builds are good. It just means that players can punish themselves through ignorance or choice by picking a bad option. That is far from great. Great would be that there are no bad choices.
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This is pretty much it. Although, I know the goal was that the Cata Talents would create multiple viable playstyles within a spec while being newbie-firendly: The problem being that was very rarely the case. Notably the builds we saw during BFA with Mistweavers & holy paladins.
All-in-all there were overall more viable builds during the Talent Tree era so we might as well go back to that.
RIP Cataclysm Era Talents - You were an exciting new system that never paid off that somehow lasted 10 years
It looks like that exact playstyle will exist in Frost: A dps build revolving around Rime & Chill Streak, spreading dots while managing resources.
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Personally I'm not casual, but certainly not someone that enjoys min/maxing the hell out of my game, I'm way too lazy for that crap.
However, with the presets being a thing, I'm thinking of at least using separate talents for raiding and mythics now, since I only need to set them up once and then I never have to bother switching them around.
Monk is probably the last they will showcase![]()
I imagine that whatever classes they are changing in drastic ways will likely be the last ones to be shown. Personally my money is on Hunters being last in line, with the exception of BM they never seem to get SV and MM right, and I imagine this will be extremely apparant with MM and it's awful talents being problematic when they try to squeeze it into a talent tree.
The world revamp dream will never die!
I wish they got rid of needing a Tome to respec, especially with having a talent tree.
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Didn't Scaleface say Arcane would get a rework? If so, Mage might be close to the end-ish (then again, Survival was in the first batch for Legion so who knows if it means something)
From what I recall he said that the Evoker would take a number of things from Arcane mages but from what we've seen it doesn't really seem to be the case.
edit: I just went through his posts and didn't actually find anything along those lines, just him hinting how the name of the class is the same as an ability of mages (evocation). Unless a post of his was deleted, I'm not sure. May have just been a detail that got warped due to essentially a game of telephone.
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Could be but looking at the posts where he mentions mages, it seems more to me it was just about his initial reaction due to the name sharing:
So yeah from that it feels more like "it made me think of mages due to the arcane mage ability" and less "they're stealing from arcane mages."
Unless posts of his were deleted.