Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Varodoc]

See, I don't agree with that. This reasoning comes because cities are seen as non-combat areas that are service centers. Boralus and Zul'dazar however both had world quests. I'd argue that Boralus in particular could afford to have a lot more of them if they wanted. And let's not forget Suramar.

If they ever wanted to do evergreen content, Capitals could have actual combat activity in them.

Only the harbour of Boralus and the pyramid of Dazar'alor acted like traditional "player hubs". In the rest of the city, you were not rested and you would often run into hostile mobs.

If Stormwind was like Boralus, only the Trade District would be the actual player hub where you are rested, and the rest of the city would be hostile zone.

People in BfA complained that most of Boralus was hostile and people only hanged out in the harbour, but in the end this was its design purpose. Most of Boralus was envisioned as part of the Tiragarde Sound questing experience and so it was full of hostile mobs (like in the slums and the temple) and you were not rested there.

[Valysar]

World revamp would be too much work for Blizzard, especially if a new continent comes out at the same time. Knowing a certain laziness on their part, I don't think it will happen one day unfortunately, Unless an expansion happens 100% in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms.

[ExiHext]

They'll revamp bit by bit like they did with Arathi and Darkshore. Whenever a zone gets relevant.
Next I can see Undercity and Teldrassil (or whatever the new tree will be called) being done.

[Kiivar86]

They will do more than just two a week, or else we aren't getting the alpha until mid july lol. Plus, they also have the Dracthyr blog to post. Unless they plan to post all of this while the alpha is up? Which doesn't make sense imo. Also, it took about 50 days for SL to go from encrypted alpha build to public alpha, and it seems like DF is going to take longer than that.

I mean its been a fairly slow drip so far. There were numerous complaints a week ago about how utterly silent things have been.

I'll be happy if I'm proven wrong. But...it has been slow.

It was about associating "Evoker" with "Evocation" and nothing else (It was the first association for me.)

I was away for a moment, I didn't write - but I am watching all the time. All the best

Thanks for confirmation!

(And double thanks as an arcane mage main who did not relish the idea of another class stealing from me)

[Nyel]

I mean its been a fairly slow drip so far. There were numerous complaints a week ago about how utterly silent things have been.

I'll be happy if I'm proven wrong. But...it has been slow.

To be fair it's rather surprising they released them last week with Diablo Immortal launch just being few hours away.

[Darkarath]

They'll revamp bit by bit like they did with Arathi and Darkshore. Whenever a zone gets relevant.
Next I can see Undercity and Teldrassil (or whatever the new tree will be called) being done.

Doubt that honestly. Think that that kind of approach died with BfA, as just adding some WQ and rares do not make for evergreen content, which should be their objective if they revamp anything, unless they are fucking morons, which is definitively a possibility looking at past developments.

I agree with some comments here that say that besides current expansion city hub, Stormwind and Orgrimmar, the rest of the cities matter very little. Maybe they can use that to their advantange with a world revamp. World goes to shit, we retain an Horde city and an Alliance city, the rest we might recover in future patches / expansions, could even be used as player housing more than actual cities, so that every few years we have a new place to build our house with new assets related to the city that we recover.

[Kiivar86]

To be fair it's rather surprising they released them last week with Diablo Immortal launch just being few hours away.

What got me actually was precisely when they released them.

Friday afternoon. Felt almost like a bit of a scramble to me, though I'm probably reading too much into it.

Still though, it felt odd to me to do it then.

[boyzma]

Desired by... forum posters? Don't know if the basic player in game really cares about that.

I think the general problem is that the topic of another revamp is almost half a decade old by now and there always have been "proofs" or "evidence" that it's coming or in the work except it never came to fruition.

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It's Wednesday and we haven't gotten anything this week, so more than two a week seems very unlikely. Alpha in July seems excessive as we're reaching 8 weeks since the official announcement (soon), but I don't really see it happening within the next one or two weeks, not with Diablo Immortal launch being so fresh.

As I said in another post, they always can start Alpha with just the classes they have had a blog post about and unlock the others later.

You need to realize time zones work with different times. When you posted this comment it was like midnight in Irvine where Blizzard is. Give them time to wake up, have coffee, battle traffic to get to HQ, boot up personal work computers...then in a few hours you can complain...geesh......patience!

[Nyel]

You need to realize time zones work with different times. When you posted this comment it was like midnight in Irvine where Blizzard is. Give them time to wake up, have coffee, battle traffic to get to HQ, boot up personal work computers...then in a few hours you can complain...geesh......patience!

Who’s complaining? Just said it’s Wednesday and they haven’t posted anything yet which means Monday and Tuesday went without class previews. Why would they have two sets of previews on Wednesday to Friday? Can it happen? Sure. Alpha could start tomorrow. Likely? Who knows.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

So far this week we had a PTR build show up and then get added to the Retail Build and now we got this:

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/15...642561/photo/1

Today is MW2 Preorder day, it is only a matter of time before Dragonflight preorders go live whether its this week or the next few weeks. Things are moving at rapid speed.

[Lady Atia]

So far this week we had a PTR build show up and then get added to the Retail Build and now we got this:

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/15...642561/photo/1

Today is MW2 Preorder day, it is only a matter of time before Dragonflight preorders go live whether its this week or the next few weeks. Things are moving at rapid speed.

What has MW2 pre-order to do with Dragonflight though?

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

What has MW2 pre-order to do with Dragonflight though?

Business stuff.

[Marlamin]

So far this week we had a PTR build show up and then get added to the Retail Build and now we got this:

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/15...642561/photo/1

Today is MW2 Preorder day, it is only a matter of time before Dragonflight preorders go live whether its this week or the next few weeks. Things are moving at rapid speed.

The PTR/Retail builds had nothing to do with pre-order, fwiw.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

The PTR/Retail builds had nothing to do with pre-order, fwiw.

Its called speculation, but thanks for getting your cheap got'chas'.

Also again, this is such a ridiculous statement based on the modified file changes. But, anyways have at it.

[Marlamin]

Its called speculation, but thanks for getting your cheap got'chas'.

Sure, feel free to speculate but implicating something where there's absolutely no basis in truth still deserves getting called out.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Sure, feel free to speculate but implicating something where there's absolutely no basis in truth still deserves getting called out.

I mean I am not doing that and have never intended that. I don't know why everyone continuously thinks that everything I write isn't speculation when I am in the speculation thread but for some reason I have to restate that for the record that I am speculating in the speculation thread.

[Marlamin]

Also again, this is such a ridiculous statement based on the modified file changes. But, anyways have at it.

There were no changes to any encrypted files part of the preorder keys outside of the DB2s, which can all be traced back to hotfixes being baked in.

I am so glad you're gone soon.

Don't worry, I'll still stick around the thread to point out glaring mistakes like that.

I mean I am not doing that and have never intended that. I don't know why everyone continuously thinks that everything I write isn't speculation when I am in the speculation thread but for some reason I have to restate that for the record that I am speculating in the speculation thread.

You were saying "things were moving at rapid speed" after mentioning the builds, the added button and the MW2 preorder. That is an implication that those things are related to the pre-order in my interpretation of your post, but just like anyone reading and writing anything here, it's up for interpretation.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Well you just said outside of the DB2s, so again congratulations you are being needlessly hostile as per usual.

[micwini]

Well you just said outside of the DB2s, so again congratulations you are being needlessly hostile as per usual.

Only one being hostile is you. Chill the F out.

[Marlamin]

Well you just said outside of the DB2s, so again congratulations you are being needlessly hostile as per usual.

Yup, the DB2s that are encrypted with multiple keys for multiple things at the same time. You're free to diff them yourself and check whether or not every change in the encrypted DB2s can be linked back to a hotfix, but as far as I can see they can. Being direct/factual is often mistaken with being hostile, which never is the case or my intention, sorry if you feel it came over that way.