1. #58121
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    If we count from then, seven weeks would basically be now. I don't know about this, Marlamin is the expert. Yet he said several more "weeks" until Alpha seems likely.
    Usually (based on only Shadowlands/BfA* (*minus holidays) as wowdev didn't exist for earlier alphas) there are regular builds as soon as the first one comes out. First 10.0 wowdev build was on April 22nd but we haven't seen a single 10.0 build since which makes this situation unique so I don't think any proper educated guesses can be made right now.

    My gut feeling definitely says weeks (maybe mid to late July?) but that isn't based on any facts in the slightest so don't hold me to that. As soon as we see regular builds on wowdev we can start making more educated guesses as that means the internal Alpha is actually happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Usually (based on only Shadowlands/BfA* (*minus holidays) as wowdev didn't exist for earlier alphas) there are regular builds as soon as the first one comes out. First 10.0 wowdev build was on April 22nd but we haven't seen a single 10.0 build since which makes this situation unique so I don't think any proper educated guesses can be made right now.

    My gut feeling definitely says weeks (maybe mid to late July?) but that isn't based on any facts in the slightest so don't hold me to that. As soon as we see regular builds on wowdev we can start making more educated guesses as that means the internal Alpha is actually happening.
    so what would your guestimate be for pre-order arrivals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlord Hanibuhl View Post
    so what would your guestimate be for pre-order arrivals?
    "we haven't seen a single 10.0 build since which makes this situation unique so I don't think any proper educated guesses can be made right now."

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    I hope we get another batch of talent trees today.


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    Well, E3 week is right now so it wouldn't surprise me if Blizzard chose to announce something in the coming days. If only to steer the discourse away from the Diablo: Immortal P2W situation. There is an Overwatch PVP event scheduled a few days from now, and rumours say a Diablo IV release date might come during the Xbox Bethesda presentation on Sunday. But something for WoW might also be appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlord Hanibuhl View Post
    so what would your guestimate be for pre-order arrivals?
    I expected them during 9.2.0, so yeah, no clue either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I hope we get another batch of talent trees today.
    It is not Friday yet.

    Though we don't know if their schedule is "batch on every Friday" or "batch on every month's first Friday".

  8. #58128
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    People looking for a pattern where there is none.
    @Teriz is the lord and master of this. Can't wait to see how he spins this into a new pattern for a class lol.

    It's insane how delusional people get really.. 2 or 3 data points is not a pattern. Data doesn't work that way.

  9. #58129
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Well, E3 week is right now so it wouldn't surprise me if Blizzard chose to announce something in the coming days. If only to steer the discourse away from the Diablo: Immortal P2W situation. There is an Overwatch PVP event scheduled a few days from now, and rumours say a Diablo IV release date might come during the Xbox Bethesda presentation on Sunday. But something for WoW might also be appropriate.
    A Diablo IV release date? For December 2023 or what? Because that's how far the game is away - at least.

    I'm more interested on what the hell the Evoker class even is, I couldn't care less about talent trees that are 99% of what we have now. I'd like to know how an Evoker healer differs from Druid or Monk because right now my fear is: it doesn't. From what we know it's like a Druid with HoTs and has some "breath" heals like Monk (had).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    A Diablo IV release date? For December 2023 or what? Because that's how far the game is away - at least.

    I'm more interested on what the hell the Evoker class even is, I couldn't care less about talent trees that are 99% of what we have now. I'd like to know how an Evoker healer differs from Druid or Monk because right now my fear is: it doesn't. From what we know it's like a Druid with HoTs and has some "breath" heals like Monk (had).
    Everything they've shown of D4 shows the game is pretty far along. They're also doing internal testing and that coincided with a release a year later for D3 I believe. I've never understood why people think this game is years away - even from the reveal, it seemed pretty far along. I'm guessing it would have been out by now if not for Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Well, E3 week is right now so it wouldn't surprise me if Blizzard chose to announce something in the coming days. If only to steer the discourse away from the Diablo: Immortal P2W situation. There is an Overwatch PVP event scheduled a few days from now, and rumours say a Diablo IV release date might come during the Xbox Bethesda presentation on Sunday. But something for WoW might also be appropriate.
    What's the rumor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I'm more interested on what the hell the Evoker class even is, I couldn't care less about talent trees that are 99% of what we have now. I'd like to know how an Evoker healer differs from Druid or Monk because right now my fear is: it doesn't. From what we know it's like a Druid with HoTs and has some "breath" heals like Monk (had).
    It has empowered abilities and a larger focus on spatially targeted healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitemeridian View Post
    What's the rumor?
    Jez Corden of Windows Central mentioned it in his Xbox E3 predictions article.

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    Looking more and more like mid-2023 (Q2) for Dragonflight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Looking more and more like mid-2023 (Q2) for Dragonflight.
    If Blizzard won't release anything new next 40 minutes, I'm leaning towards 2024 release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    If Blizzard won't release anything new next 40 minutes, I'm leaning towards 2024 release.
    2025 IMO




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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    2025 IMO
    Maybe we should save 10.1 date predictions for new thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    2025 IMO
    Bah, 2030 at the earliest. Blizz is going to do everything to ensure they don't have extra content delays including finishing the next 3 expansions before DF comes out.

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    I am going to be honest, I don't really care about the base expansion since it will be a nightmare either way with "Where's the content" complaints. More curious if they got a Legion post-launch schedule or if the attrition rate post-launch dries up the resources to push post-release content again which leads to the same outcome as Shadowlands for Dragonflight.

    It could release in 2069 for all I care. I don't have much confidence they will have enough content on launch and as such my main focus will stay on the post-launch cycle and how Blizzard conducts themselves.
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  19. #58139
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    A Diablo IV release date? For December 2023 or what? Because that's how far the game is away - at least.

    I'm more interested on what the hell the Evoker class even is, I couldn't care less about talent trees that are 99% of what we have now. I'd like to know how an Evoker healer differs from Druid or Monk because right now my fear is: it doesn't. From what we know it's like a Druid with HoTs and has some "breath" heals like Monk (had).
    One of the holinka interviews shared their gameplay intentions for the healer.

    1. High mobility flying around.
    2. Strong stacked healing from close range heals like the breath.
    3. Time magic that adds a preemptive planning aspect.

    So the fantasy is you are zooming around healing clumps and doing preemptive stuff. Holinka described it as a mix of restoration shaman stacked healing and discipline priest setup gameplay.

    I would have to guess that the talents trees will be set up so you can focus on one of the two core healing concepts.

  20. #58140
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I am going to be honest, I don't really care about the base expansion since it will be a nightmare either way with "Where's the content" complaints. More curious if they got a Legion post-launch schedule or if the attrition rate post-launch dries up the resources to push post-release content again which leads to the same outcome as Shadowlands for Dragonflight.

    It could release in 2069 for all I care. I don't have much confidence they will have enough content on launch and as such my main focus will stay on the post-launch cycle and how Blizzard conducts themselves.
    I somehow doubt Blizzard is going to risk going back to the Legion launch schedule. As good as it was for pacing it might also have been a hard sell for players who want the raid immediately instead of waiting the extra eleven weeks for the .5 patch.

    One could hope though, would certainly be a nice throwback to a better content cycle.
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