Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Makorus]

As I already said to you before: It's not in the pre-order announcement page.

AKA the big flashy thing that people are actually going to look at.

The thing people are going to be looking at is the actual store page, not a news article telling you that you can preorder. Over the next few months, the store page is gonna get more traffic than a random news article.

Even so, why shift the goal posts from "Oh, they are not showing the Dracthyr!" to "Oh, they are not showing the Dracthyr on this very specific page I want them to be shown on!"

[Makabreska]

One can hope that this is the case, and if it is, I'll be pleasantly surprised. I'm more inclined to believe that the "two major patch" cycle is going to be the norm from here on out, and Dragonflight will be stretched just as thin as Shadowlands, but I very well could be (and hopefully am) wrong.

Why do you think that, when we had a major global event called pandemic that screwed with SL? Did short WoD patch cycle carried on?

[The Stormbringer]

The thing people are going to be looking at is the actual store page, not a news article telling you that you can preorder. Over the next few months, the store page is gonna get more traffic than a random news article.

Even so, why shift the goal posts from "Oh, they are not showing the Dracthyr!" to "Oh, they are not showing the Dracthyr on this very specific page I want them to be shown on!"

I didn't shift goal posts, because the only page I was looking at was the announcement page. You're the one who brought up the store page. Also, I wasn't even the first person to mention it, that was Mutineer.

[Nymrohd]

So.. this supposed to be slow year for Blizzard? xD

I mean if it were a slow year, it would be followed by 2023 with D4

[The Stormbringer]

Why do you think that, when we had a major global event called pandemic that screwed with SL?

The pandemic wasn't the only thing that screwed with SL. I think you're ignoring the thing that likely had much more impact, the firing and re-shuffling of numerous people in Blizzard due to all the harassment, as well as all the striking that was done.

[Makabreska]

The pandemic wasn't the only thing that screwed with SL. I think you're ignoring the thing that likely had much more impact, the firing and re-shuffling of numerous people in Blizzard due to all the harassment, as well as all the striking that was done.

Yes, and that too has passed. MS soon takes over, working environment is/will improve. So again, why only 3 raids in DF?

[Ersula]

Why do you think that, when we had a major global event called pandemic that screwed with SL? Did short WoD patch cycle carried on?

I think 3 10+ boss raid tiers per expansion is a good amount. But I wish tiers had a bit more to do than a random collectothon sandbox zone for each tier.

[Nymrohd]

So the new dragon mount is gorgeous but . . . did they keep the pine cone tail???

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I think 3 10+ boss raid tiers per expansion is a good amount. But I wish tiers had a bit more to do than a random collectothon sandbox zone for each tier.

Honestly I'd love it if we had more but smaller raids. Less filler bosses. It is a bit of a challenge since if BiS is very much split between the raids you may get people not showing up for one raid and then coming for the other but I prefer tiers with multiple raids

[Khaza-R]

So.. this supposed to be slow year for Blizzard? xD

Probably should of been, tbh.

Shorter TBCC cadence, OW2 with no solo mode, now a possibly rushed DF launch. Definitely feels like Activision is trying to push things through their pipeline before the sale is complete. I don't really care as much about the aforementioned titles but it does make be very nervous about the future of D4.

[Makorus]

So the new dragon mount is gorgeous but . . . did they keep the pine cone tail???

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Honestly I'd love it if we had more but smaller raids. Less filler bosses. It is a bit of a challenge since if BiS is very much split between the raids you may get people not showing up for one raid and then coming for the other but I prefer tiers with multiple raids

What's a filler boss?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yes its still looking like a pine cone tail, I just looked(Again).

[Nymrohd]

What's a filler boss?

I mean I am lore centric so I find that some bosses are just added to pad the count? They don't really help tell the story of the raid much. E.g. think Jadefire Masters in Dazar'alor.

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Yes its still looking like a pine cone tail, I just looked(Again).

I mean it's an HD pine cone but . . .
I guess the original model is so distinctive they wanted to stay true to it which I can respect. Still think its weird that they effectively have a club for a tail.

[Khaza-R]

People didn't like their club tails? I always thought it made them a bit more unique.

[Nymrohd]

People didn't like their club tails? I always thought it made them a bit more unique.

Well I won't say people. I'll say I did not like them. At least now they look more like pine cones instead of pineapples.

[Hitei]

Well I won't say people. I'll say I did not like them. At least now they look more like pine cones instead of pineapples.

People didn't like their club tails? I always thought it made them a bit more unique.

Pretty sure they're switching them to flight specific with the updates.




So it's probably just the green that does that now, which is also why it's more nature-y.

[Chickat]

I wonder if alpha is this week.

[Nymrohd]

I wonder if alpha is this week.

I'd now hope it's coming soon. If it's November, don't we want at least 5 months of Alpha/Beta?

[Dracullus]

I mean if it were a slow year, it would be followed by 2023 with D4

I mean people called me too optimistic when I said Diablo IV will be around Christmas 2023 just few months ago. Now we thinks about 6 months earlier date. Overwatch 2 and 10.0 were sure 2023 bets for many people, so much that anyone talking about 2022 release was straight up laughed at.

Now Diablo Immortal is making ton of money even before release on Asian market (which was always intended market to be honest), Overwatch is turned into live service that will for sure print money as well and on top of that there is WoW expansion, safest bet for good (financial) year.

Diablo IV is a even bigger deal than WoW expac (I remind Diablo III held fastest sold PC game title from 2012 to 2020), it will for sure be something similar to Overwatch in 2016, so it could carry 2023 on it's own. Maybe 2024 will be slower year, but again now there is possibility for 11.0 launching this year, maybe even Blizzard will push for release during 20th anniversary (let's officially start 11.0 revamp delus.. hype I mean). And they also work on this new survival game, it should release mid to late 20s.

So next few years has much bigger potential than 2017-2021, of course Blizzard could fuck up everything, but if they use their cards smart it could carry them next few years, after that maybe potential investments from Microsoft will already bear fruits.

I'd now hope it's coming soon. If it's November, don't we want at least 5 months of Alpha/Beta?

If they want release raid this year, they have 4 months: July, August, September, October. I know, scary. From more positive side they don't have to figure out how to implement many stuff (member 15th iterations of Torghast or soulbinds?), everything but talents could be already set in stone. I mean, it's not like they will have to redesign renown style reputations for casual gameplay, we didn't have devs watercoolers about Venthyr party.

[The Stormbringer]

Yes, and that too has passed. MS soon takes over, working environment is/will improve. So again, why only 3 raids in DF?

Because they appear to be rushing things. A lot. The alpha hasn't even started, and the game is supposed to come out this year? That doesn't fill me with confidence that it's going to be a proper, 3-raid patch expansion.

[Makorus]

Because they appear to be rushing things. A lot. The alpha hasn't even started, and the game is supposed to come out this year? That doesn't fill me with confidence that it's going to be a proper, 3-raid patch expansion.

How does the Alpha test of the expansion being short have anything to do with post-launch content?