Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Forum Man]

Soon (tm).

alpha first tuesday of july

[Ersula]

Because Demons are the living embodiment of Disorder. Once Sargeras was no longer keeping things together, they quickly ran off to pursue their own interests.

This describes them only after Sargeras teaches them his dark secrets, like how to attune to the twisting neather: (For the most part) All "demons" came under the service of Sargeras the same way the Eredar did: They were normal races who were coerced into working for him. Sure they're were true believers in Sargeras' crusade, but the majority of them were essentially enslaved. Why shouldn't we assume they just want to go back to their normal lives now that he's gone.

[Ferlion]

This describes them only after Sargeras teaches them his dark secrets, like how to attune to the twisting neather: (For the most part) All "demons" came under the service of Sargeras the same way the Eredar did: They were normal races who were coerced into working for him. Sure they're were true believers in Sargeras' crusade, but the majority of them were essentially enslaved. Why shouldn't we assume they just want to go back to their normal lives now that he's gone.

Because this isn't what Demons are. It's what SOME demons are.

There were and are original demonic races that predate the fall of Sargeras.

In fact, the Demon Hunter start quests take place on what is left of Mordum, which was the prison dimension Sargeras used to hold demons he killed. His destruction of this planet/dimension after he fell and freeing the demons he killed is what exposed him to enough fel to mutate.

[rhorle]

This describes them only after Sargeras teaches them his dark secrets, like how to attune to the twisting neather: (For the most part) All "demons" came under the service of Sargeras the same way the Eredar did: They were normal races who were coerced into working for him. Sure they're were true believers in Sargeras' crusade, but the majority of them were essentially enslaved. Why shouldn't we assume they just want to go back to their normal lives now that he's gone.

Sargeras was hunting demons that were causing trouble to things Titans ordered before he formed the Legion. That means demons would go back to causing trouble and things, right? Their "normal" lives, right? Demons are also naturally attuned to the Twisting Nether. That isn't something Sargeras taught them or caused. It is why Sargeras had to build a prison to hold them.

[Nymrohd]

Do we really know much about Fel? We know there are natural fel creatures but most "demons" are corrupted things; corrupted titan constructs (from the Kanrethad quest), corrupted mortals like the Eredar, then we have the Nathrezim. Really, Sargeras, the Nathrezim and Eredar were shown as the primary fel users in the story and none of them are natively fel aligned. While Legion showed a truly wide variety of demons and showed a lot of what the Burning Legion accomplished, we did not learn much about the actual demonic races like the Shivarra, Sayad, Annihilan and Mo'arg. If they ever decided to revisit fel, there would be a lot of new lore to build.

Honestly before Shadowlands I thought the six forces were disconnected planes of concept instead of actual locations with the Shadowlands being a transitive plane leading to Death instead of being Death itself. Now we fully expect every one of the six forces to have their own continent-sized areas to explore later on (which was probably the intent). And we don't know anything more about Fel than we know about the other five.

[huth]

This describes them only after Sargeras teaches them his dark secrets, like how to attune to the twisting neather: (For the most part) All "demons" came under the service of Sargeras the same way the Eredar did: They were normal races who were coerced into working for him. Sure they're were true believers in Sargeras' crusade, but the majority of them were essentially enslaved. Why shouldn't we assume they just want to go back to their normal lives now that he's gone.

It's still inherent to being a demon. Why or how they became demons doesn't matter. That they did does. Sargeras didn't make Disorder. He only made them be of Disorder.

[Nyel]

He wasn't?

Because they sure as hell wrote him to be just that.
Seeing as he was the one who orchestrated the Nathrezims ploys, the creation of the Burning Legion and the Lich King, up to and including the just right stabbing of Azeroth. (which he somehow prophesized, a power he apparently has but has never been shown to use)

Being behind warcraft biggest and most iconic antagonistic forces, sure as hell sounds like an über-villain to me.

He absolutely was the Uber-villain, Blizzard even said so. Shadowlands is meant to be the climax of the first book (aka Warcraft as of now) which was said often enough by the devs in the 9.2 preview and after in the interviews. They had to write the entire Warcraft universe around him during Shadowlands, make him one way or another the mastermind behind every major event in the Warcraft universe and yet they still failed to give him personality, a good storyline or at least a lasting impression on the universe.

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alpha first tuesday of july

Pretty sure pre-orders will drop as soon as Q3/22 is around the corner (which is in 9 days).

[rainhard]

https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/pro...t-dragonflight is that new guys should we freak out idk tbh just saw on reddit, mayne im sharing a virus idk just deleted there tho.

[Makabreska]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/pre-ord...ailable-327434

Pre orders available

[Arafal]

https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/pro...t-dragonflight is that new guys should we freak out idk tbh just saw on reddit, mayne im sharing a virus idk just deleted there tho.

Time to bring back the hype train.

[Worldshaper]

2022 was obviously always going to be the case. Glad we can settle the 2023 debate.

[Alexjimithing]

By the end of the year, huh.

Also preordered.

e: The wings on that mount look tight.

[rainhard]

Does that 2022 release make scale guy more right if i remember correctly?

[Onslaught49]

fuck yes, all aboard the hype train!

[Bsirk]

Chugga Chugga Choo Choo!! Yay!

[Chickat]

That's not good news. We don't have long enough for testing now.

[Worldshaper]

That green dragon mount is beautiful.

[Super Dickmann]

Bad move, Shadowlands had more of a gap and more to show at announcement and was still unfinished and needed a multi-week delay. They're rushing it and will either have to delay or come out with a shambles.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Accelerationism won.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Too bad there's no full armor transmog, dragon themed. :/