Dracthyr share a skeleton with the Incubus so it's not a full "ground up" creation there either.
Talents don't even require any real testing either. Talent trees are replacing spellbooks and basically every talent is an already existing ability in the game. Since the idea is to have these trees be scalable for the foreseeable future, the only testing talents require is to ensure the underlying functionality (ie: 8 & 20 point breakpoints, "Choose one" talents, talents becoming enabled when one prior option is fulfilled, etc.) work.
Tuning isn't done until the last month of beta so that's irrelevant to actual testing.
The only actual testing that needs to be done is with professions, the raid, endgame content, and quests.
Unless there's something hidden they didn't talk about, there's not a lot to actually test compared to prior expansions.
I honestly don't get why the April showing was so small?
Alot of it was just Devs and artists discussing stuff. Which is in of itself if they announced it fairly early on and didn't have much to show.
But fuck if it's announcement was only 8 months before it's launch they should have been way more in-depth.
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Delaying games isn't a good look. Like sure sometimes it's needed. But ideally a company should be hitting that deadline in the first place.
(Disclaimer: Crunch is bad and the initial deadline should reflect game development without crunch)
Negative clickbait reactions? This is why we're at this stage of the game, due to people like you making such light work of feedback. They did not listen to feedback with BFA and SL slightly(they delayed for a month), they were set in their ways and they went for it, and on top of that they just had a huge conflict within their company for abuse/etc and a developer went on twitter saying there's no work being done for 2 weeks. We haven't seen how new dragon riding works, Ion interviews from a month ago is him saying they are figuring it out still and etc, we don't know all the talent trees, sure you say its w.e mostly the same, sure but they gotta test them no? We don't really know endgame besides the M+ scene. Beta at this rate will be ~4 and a half months. June is gone, and they will not release late December. Man you're wearing rose tinted glasses if you think none of this smells wrong.
The only thing that smells wrong is the constant whining by the same people expansion after expansion. Must be miserable. The sky isn't falling calm down. That 2 week of them of not working is obviously caught up and it was so damn long ago. We have a decent idea of what the endgame is going to be its not like it hasn't changed all too much in the last few years and lets say it does, they'll handle it and show us.
Even if they delay the game its fine it happens lots of games get delayed now a days
Welcome to the age of Covid, enjoy your stay.(Disclaimer: Crunch is bad and the initial deadline should reflect game development without crunch)
Inb4 "COPIUM11111111111111"
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The problem with the game is because of people like you that find any reason to be negative. Blizzard has listened to feedback. The problem is you want them to design the exact game you want where as they instead went with the game they thought was best after listening to feedback.
Listen to yourself. You have no details about the expansion and you are already viewing it as negative. You are being negative just to be negative at this point. Dragonflight could solve all the problem you have with the game but you've already decided it sets a negative precedent and is something to be hated. So why does length of beta or a release date matter when you've already come to a conclusion?
But sure people like me are the problem with the game. Lol.
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"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
i thought typically they dropped alphas and betas on a Thursday or Friday. my money is on July 7/8, they wont drop it on the 4th of July weekend, which would be next week
While I agree, that an argument can be made about Shadowlands being abandoned earlier, I think it's fair to assume that correlates to working from home.
I mean, we're one week from July, and the expansion is supposed to come out before 31th of December, but since I think Blizzard doesn't wanna do a release on holidays, it's also fair to assume that any release after the 15th of December would be a disaster.
So, let's say the expansion will release on the 20th of December, just to get the full six months time-frame, we still didn't get:
- Preview of most Talent Trees, Professions Rework, Dragon Riding;
- Datamining;
- Alpha;
- Beta;
- Even the "pre" expansion book is slated to release in 2023;
It's hard to not be concerned about it.
I'm sad about all this because I think if Dragonflight fails as well, it'll be endgame. Shadowlands was terrible in every aspect IMO, even the general MMO feeling that WoW had for nearly 20 years was lost.
Everyone seems to be playing this game for just a couple of weeks every patch for cheap lore and then quit, there's no more population-critical mass to sustain the MMO acronym.
What happens if Dragonflight fails?
I'm deeply concerned...![]()
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I'm skeptical they will make that 2022 deadline, expecting this to be delayed. We'll see just how far along things are once the Alpha drops (hopefully it's more than previous expacs).
Oh look it's the thing everyone says about a different expansion that just happens to coincide with when they, personally, started feeling like WoW was less of an MMO.
There isn't a single post-WotLK expansion someone hasn't said this about. Shit I said it about Cataclysm.
So, in short, it's nonsense. As is your ass-pull, evidence-free theory re: "critical mass" of population. Your "cheap lore" comment really just is the icing on a truly awful cake.
"A youtuber said so."
"... some wow experts being interviewed..."
"According to researchers from Wowhead..."
This is pretty much it. By the most conservative estimate the covenant abilities took at least 20% of Shadowlands testing just to balance 40+ combat abilities. And Torghast was at least 5%. They can knock off at least 6 weeks of testing based on that alone. That being said I'm so excited for the new crafting. FFXIV crafting is lit.
I think there's a world of difference between expressing concern/curiosity at how much content it may have versus pretending like you definitively *know* and saying something like, "it doesn't have any content."
You're conflating your intentional pessimism with people wondering if it will be short on content at launch. Disingenuous at best.
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The similarity of Dragonflight to WotLK should be more apparent to everyone. They might as well said "You want WotLK so bad we'll emulate WotLK" Wrath didn't have any newfangled game modes & it was the last time there were crafted BIS items. Plus if you told me they've been planning an old world revamp since BFA but because of covid they decided to through this filler expansion together to buy themselves two more years to work on that.
But I wouldn't say it's pessimism: I'm looking forward to Dragonflight, mainly because it can't possibly have less content than Shadowlands
It is entirely pessimism. You just called the expansion filler and you don't even know any of the details about it. It is also strange for you to think it will have more content then Shadowlands when WotLK had less or any "newfangled game modes". So is Dragonflight not actually like Wrath?
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
What do y'all think the pre-patch event is going to be?