Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Makabreska]

Guys guys guys. Please ignore the obvious baiter.

[Nymrohd]

That's a lot of damage on holy tree.

[Ersula]

That's a lot of damage on holy tree.

Theoretically they could put dps builds into tank & healer specs, perhaps merely to create chaos.

It might be just be for leveling. Do we know if changing a talent loadout is more, less, or equally restrictive as changing specs?

[micwini]

Theoretically they could put dps builds into tank & healer specs, perhaps merely to create chaos.

It might be just be for leveling. Do we know if changing a talent loadout is more, less, or equally restrictive as changing specs?

Its like how you change talents now. You can also save builds, so once you've set it up you can basically switch to "dps leveling mode" in 1 click in a rested area.

[ExiHext]

Guys guys guys. Please ignore the obvious baiter.

Booh! No fun allowed!

[Ersula]

Its like how you change talents now. You can also save builds, so once you've set it up you can basically switch to "dps leveling mode" in 1 click in a rested area.

Depending on the specific values, it also seems like they put certain playstyles in trees you wouldn't expect: A pet-less disease based Death Knight? It exists, but its in Frost, not Unholy. The Holy Fire Priest seems to be made for the Discipline Priest who doesn't want to use that new light/shadow stance-swap mechanic.

[Varodoc]

So you admit you were wrong because a novice is successfully containing the void.

It's cute how you think a random voidwalker represents the Void.

But Nope, I scientifically, biologically, and objectively am never wrong because I always back my statements with evidence from the source material.

[Nightshade711]

The really missed the opportunity Legion provided of expanding demons to a hunter-like system. They did a little with glyphs but there really should be more customization with the pets.

Agreed.
Especially with all the demons they added in Legion. I'd love to have one of those Fel Lords instead of a Fel Guard.

[Ferlion]

As excited as I am for Alpha/Beta, I am kind of hoping they just release a client to test stuff while keeping the majority encrypted. Only like one zone or something for Dragonflight testing

[Lahis]

Priest talents in calculator:

https://www.wowhead.com/dragonflight...lc/AABcAAABmAA

What? They didn't milk the talents for 5 posts over a week before making the calculator?

[Khaza-R]

Priest talents in calculator:

https://www.wowhead.com/dragonflight...lc/AABcAAABmAA

Well that was fast this time lol

[rhorle]

It's cute how you think a random voidwalker represents the Void.

They are creatures of the Void. So you haven't backed anything up with source material and have blatantly lied.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Voidwalker

[Varodoc]

They are creatures of the Void. So you haven't backed anything up with source material and have blatantly lied.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Voidwalker

Nope. You're wrong and I'm right:

"Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to succeed at defying the shadow's whispers."

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/races/void-elf

Our beloved Blizzard has spoken and Void elves are far more impressive than shadow priests or warlocks. Alleria Windrunner is and will forever be the first to successfully defy the whispers of the shadows. Both Shadow Priests and Warlocks miserably and pathetically failed.

Also, I guess that following your logic then a novice lvl 5 warlock controls the Legion because they can summon an imp.

[Nightshade711]

Nope. You're wrong and I'm right:

"Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to succeed at defying the shadow's whispers."

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/races/void-elf

Our beloved Blizzard has spoken and Void elves are far more impressive than shadow priests or warlocks. Alleria Windrunner is and will forever be the first to successfully defy the whispers of the shadows. Both Shadow Priests and Warlocks miserably and pathetically failed.

Also, I guess that following your logic then a novice lvl 5 warlock controls the Legion because they can summon an imp.

Idk man it is pretty clear that our player characters aren't mortals.

[Alanar]

Nope. You're wrong and I'm right:

"Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to succeed at defying the shadow's whispers."

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/races/void-elf

Our beloved Blizzard has spoken and Void elves are far more impressive than shadow priests or warlocks. Alleria Windrunner is and will forever be the first to successfully defy the whispers of the shadows. Both Shadow Priests and Warlocks miserably and pathetically failed.

Also, I guess that following your logic then a novice lvl 5 warlock controls the Legion because they can summon an imp.

Void elves are anything, but impressive. They are straight up nobodies m8.

[Nymrohd]

I'll never understand why this is not just considered flamebaiting.

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Btw I still don't get these trees. Why are there 4 different talents about Shadow Apparition yet none of them require Shadow Apparition to be chosen (while the talents that REQUIRE it, don't affect it). And one of those is on the opposite side of the tree.

[rhorle]

Also, I guess that following your logic then a novice lvl 5 warlock controls the Legion because they can summon an imp.

The Burning Legion is one group of Chaos. The Void is the entire cosmic force. So a Warlock can control the Void by controlling a creature of the Void. Alleria is the first mortal to master a specific part of the void's corruption. She is not the first mortal to ever control the Void. Also we know that isn't even an accurate statement since Etherals are mortals and have mastered the Void hence why Locus-walker exists as a teacher...

So again you ignore the source material to write your fanfic about Void elves.

[Varodoc]

The Burning Legion is one group of Chaos. The Void is the entire cosmic force. So a Warlock can control the Void by controlling a creature of the Void. Alleria is the first mortal to master a specific part of the void's corruption. She is not the first mortal to ever control the Void. Also we know that isn't even an accurate statement since Etherals are mortals and have mastered the Void hence why Locus-walker exists as a teacher...

So again you ignore the source material to write your fanfic about Void elves.

Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to defy the shadows' whispers, as stated in the Canonical source I provided.

This means that every mortal prior to her succumbed to the whispers.

[rhorle]

Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to defy the shadows' whispers, as stated in the Canonical source I provided. This means that every mortal prior to her succumbed to the whispers. It's easy to understand.

It is a race writeup that ignores even the story of how Alleria learned to control the shadow. You know where she was taught by a mortal that learned to control the void. Do you not actually know the lore of the race you love so much?

[Makorus]

Defying someone doesn't mean you are in control.

She wasn't in control when she almost summoned the Void Lords through the Sunwell.