Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

Nope, fuck playing alts.

Main character progression or no game.

I have to agree with that. I love alts but the game actually needs to be able to offer progression for a main character for most of the life of each patch. If I can be done progressing in 2-3 months while the patch lasts 6-8, there is a problem.

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Essentially
One person: red and white make pink
Other person: no it makes light red
*so many pages later*
Person 1: they are the same color but you said it wrong
Person 2: I agree they are the same but you just didn't understand my phrasing


At least that's my assumption because I'm not reading that

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So blog post or talent trees tomorrow boys??

I think Dracthyr customization should come next together with an Evoker blog post; perhaps the two can be combined in a mega post. In past expacs the first alpha build was entirely on the new class (I think that was true in both Wrath and Legion).

[Nyel]

So, in an interview, Ion said that M+ was originally intended to be a Legion ONLY feature. However, due to feedback and popular demand, they continued it forward in BFA, SL, DF, etc. For Dragonriding, he said that while it is meant for Dragon Isles content only, they could innovate or pull it forward into other expansions if it is received highly.

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Dragon Covenants without the player power attached!

Which makes a revamp even more unlikely because they would have to adjust the entire continent for that. If we just get another new island chain or whatever, implementing Dragonriding would be way easier.

By the way, Dragon Covenants make more sense than Shadowlands Covenants ever did, no idea how they could not do it. It's the most logical thing.
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I really need Monk and Shaman (I want useful Weapon buffs for all specs, not only Enhancer. Give me back Earthliving Weapon and make another one for Elemental, too) talent trees like now. And Some info about Evoker...

[Lady Atia]

Nope, fuck playing alts.

Main character progression or no game.

Are you the dev who fucked up alt game for years in order to push their "borrowed power" crap? If so I'm glad that NewBlizzard! has changed and finally realized that alt play is the game. Or in your words. Nope, fuck main character "progression". Playing alts, or no game.

[sandini]

I have to agree with that. I love alts but the game actually needs to be able to offer progression for a main character for most of the life of each patch. If I can be done progressing in 2-3 months while the patch lasts 6-8, there is a problem.

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I think Dracthyr customization should come next together with an Evoker blog post; perhaps the two can be combined in a mega post. In past expacs the first alpha build was entirely on the new class (I think that was true in both Wrath and Legion).

Don´t forget the monks!

[Nymrohd]

Which makes a revamp even more unlikely because they would have to adjust the entire continent for that. If we just get another new island chain or whatever, implementing Dragonriding would be way easier.

? Why would dragonriding affect terrain in old expacs? At worst, we get to cross through them far faster with maxed out Dragonriding; that's a convenience. If any revamp was meant to make content current then two options; a) combine zones to create larger zones that work better for modern WoW and Dragonriding, b) instead of superimposing a phased revamp as is done now, create an actual larger world that is separate.

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Are you the dev who fucked up alt game for years in order to push their "borrowed power" crap? If so I'm glad that NewBlizzard! has changed and finally realized that alt play is the game. Or in your words. Nope, fuck main character "progression". Playing alts, or no game.

You all really would love to kill the game just to make it cater to just your interests.

[Nebron]

The majority of content is there and visible for judgement ""day one build one"". What a couple dozen people can actually play through comes later, and is largely irrelevant for what the community is excited about the initial alpha release for. People aren't chomping at the bit to see Taliesin do each zone's questline. They are chomping at the bit to see wowhead/MMO-C posts of all the creature models and armor sets, and MrGM fly-through of new zones, and to hear the new login screen music, and see new recipes and pets and mounts and all the other shit that is in the first dataminable build before testing even starts.

This is soooooo true.

[Nyel]

? Why would dragonriding affect terrain in old expacs? At worst, we get to cross through them far faster with maxed out Dragonriding; that's a convenience. If any revamp was meant to make content current then two options; a) combine zones to create larger zones that work better for modern WoW and Dragonriding, b) instead of superimposing a phased revamp as is done now, create an actual larger world that is separate.

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You all really would love to kill the game just to make it cater to just your interests.

Iirc they explicitly said during the announcement that - for Dragonriding to continue in the future - they would need to build the new content around it. Which means they would need to do the same for the "old" content. And while a revamp is a tremendous task that requires much work, even more so with Dragonriding in mind, it's way easier to just create a new continent where the 5 or so zones are created with Dragonriding in mind. Creating a handful of zones on a new continent for Dragonriding is way easier than adjusting 30 or more old zones for that system.

[Lady Atia]

? Why would dragonriding affect terrain in old expacs? At worst, we get to cross through them far faster with maxed out Dragonriding; that's a convenience. If any revamp was meant to make content current then two options; a) combine zones to create larger zones that work better for modern WoW and Dragonriding, b) instead of superimposing a phased revamp as is done now, create an actual larger world that is separate.

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You all really would love to kill the game just to make it cater to just your interests.

Well my interests are: mounts, transmogs, pets, achievements, mythic raiding, m+20, pvp solo q, alt play, updated professions. Wait, that's exactly what Blizzard is giving me. Maybe that's the reason why I love Dragonflight?

None of it kills the game, it saves the game. Thousand times more than any "Borrowed Power" crap could ever have lol.

[Grimmy17]

Happy Alpha week!

[Lady Atia]

Happy Alpha week!

Happy Alpha week indeed! Lets sacrifice some gnomes to the Great Parrot and hope we get some datamining today to kick it off!

[Grimmy17]

Happy Alpha week indeed! Lets sacrifice some gnomes to the Great Parrot and hope we get some datamining today to kick it off!

I have surgery later this evening, so I'm hoping for a public build before that or just after so I can soak it all up!

[Kiria]

I have surgery later this evening, so I'm hoping for a public build before that or just after so I can soak it all up!

Wish you luck in whatever it is you're having done, personally working 12 hour shifts so yeah

[Grimmy17]

Wish you luck in whatever it is you're having done, personally working 12 hour shifts so yeah

I'm the surgeon But i'll take the luck regardless! Here's hoping we get shiny new models, icons, transmog and evoker stuff!

[Nymrohd]

I have surgery later this evening, so I'm hoping for a public build before that or just after so I can soak it all up!

Good luck with your surgery, hope everything turns out well! And hey, you might have something to read during recovery But I think it will be Thursday.

[Lady Atia]

I'm the surgeon But i'll take the luck regardless! Here's hoping we get shiny new models, icons, transmog and evoker stuff!

Haha well that was a plottwist! Break a leg <3 (or wait, don't do that).

[Kiria]

I'm the surgeon But i'll take the luck regardless! Here's hoping we get shiny new models, icons, transmog and evoker stuff!

I wish we could like posts, this is awesome

[Nymrohd]

Any chance we see the Pantheon during Dragonflight? We now have access to them and we have some dragons looking to become Aspects (though I think that instead we will see the power dispersed across the flights to revitalize them).

[Stiven]

If we get datamining before Thursday, that puts the people under NDA/embargo in a weird position where they can't talk about anything that's being datamined by the various sites/community for 2 full days.

The only way to fix that is to give anyone with early access only access to an encrypted client, but with that also comes the danger of someone leaking the key and (some) sites datamining it anyways, or even worse, gives access to earlier builds encrypted with the same key as well. There's currently 2 armadillo encryption keys out there, 1 for wowdev builds and 1 for vendor builds, neither of which Blizzard probably want to see hit the public.

If they were to roll with a secret client for the early access event they'll either have to create a separate directory on the CDN for it encrypted with a new key specific to this event (with the danger of it still leaking early), or by doing the entire preview outside of the public through VPN and/or remote cloud-based sessions or literally on location at Blizz (which is possible in Towelliee's case but not so much for Taliesin). Hmmmm!

Either way, I'm going to be keeping a close eye on things tomorrow as that should be set-up day for whatever happens the rest of the week.

Good for me I didn't sign up any NDA, will just push the buttons

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Any chance we see the Pantheon during Dragonflight? We now have access to them and we have some dragons looking to become Aspects (though I think that instead we will see the power dispersed across the flights to revitalize them).

The Pantheon is stuck at the Seat of the Pantheon. They cannot leave their position unless they want to free Sargeras and again since Sargeras will always try to counter Order it makes zero sense for that to occur other than something or someone disrupting the Pantheon.

We will receive new Titan Lore via Tyr's own Disk via the new Uldaman chambers akin to what we received in Vanilla from the Discs of Norgannon (Name not canon anymore but ayy lmao memes). There's also likely a candidate titanic testing facility on the Dragon Isles although with the current images that is a bit more unclear as it could be the Testing area is the seat of power itself and what not IDK we'll see how this one goes.

Note that current speculation is: 10.1 is Drac'Thyr Island with Raid most likely being centered on Neltharion's threat he saw underneath the Drac'Thyr Island and made the Drac'Thyrs for to fight whatever that is, 10.2 being the final patch (is joke, or is it?) with Murozond obviously. So there might not be a Titan Facility Raid tier. Although who knows. Maybe it is a quest hub, dungeon or something else.

Although knowing this Narrative Team we have a theme switch in 10.2 and we end up at the border of the Universe fighting Galactus and Voidlords.

[Nymrohd]

Also I was thinking, they could always rez Y'shaarj.