Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Catastrophy349]

We’re in the endgame!

[Cheezits]

We already did.

After the Pandaren revolution some Yaungol groups split off, they went north and some settled around the WoE and evolved into Tauren.
Other groups wandered even further north and became the Taunka.

I mean, where the YAUNGOL came from.

We know they and Trolls are not alien like Orcs or Humans are, but because this is WoW, they may have a funky origin.

Tauren being tied to elementals, and Trolls being tied to the lifelands makes a lot of sense to me (orbit around wild gods, have scales and regenerative powers). Also, I just realized the Yaungol Fire -> Tauren An'she connection.

[MightyWarrior]

Alpha is up this week my fam

[Nyel]

Specific talents are unlikely to get targeted, but what I wonder is whether they will be designed with the intent of specific builds.
Will MM get tier bonuses that presuppose you play a certain way, or will they try to make them as vague as possible. Or will they even make tier bonuses give specific talents for free? For MM for instance it is perfectly possible to use the Sepulcher 4-set to get trick shots without actually having picked the talent at all.

I mean they can use specific talents when they are mandatory for the playstyle, like the top talents - as I said. Besides that I have no clue how they want to do this because in many cases you always could build around a talent and then the tier bonus will be useless.

I could see them unlock some talents for free so you have another free point. This would make sense for bottom (aka the best) talents. Would be pretty boring though as a set bonus.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I mean, where the YAUNGOL came from.

We know they and Trolls are not alien like Orcs or Humans are, but because this is WoW, they may have a funky origin.

Tauren being tied to elementals, and Trolls being tied to the lifelands makes a lot of sense to me (orbit around wild gods, have scales and regenerative powers). Also, I just realized the Yaungol Fire -> Tauren An'she connection.

Orcs are technically aliens, not humans. Humans originated on Azeroth, Orcs did not.

[Nyel]

Nah, Blizzard has never shyed away from making tier set bonuses around unused talents to give them a new lease of life. So they can literally pick whatever they want from the tree and make it around that; in either case, there is a plethora of new build potential with these trees so I wouldn't be surprised if they got a little wacky with the tier sets to follow suit.

Especially since these trees/tier sets are going to be our "patch power"!

When exactly was this the case? Because unused talent doesn't equal "talent I did not pick". They never had tier sets revolving around talent choices, it was always for skills you always get (let it be unused or not).

[boyzma]

At what time (in the US) would Blizzard start working for the day? 7am? 8am? 9? It is currently 07:40 at their office (if my calculations are correct) and wanna know if I have time to mow the lawn before any potential news starts arriving!

It's just now 8 am. I'm on the west coast which is also Blizzard time. I just hope with all the hype in here when people don't get what they want it doesn't turn into a bitch fest.But it will....never fails.

[Marlamin]

It's just now 8 am. I'm on the west coast which is also Blizzard time. I just hope with all the hype in here when people don't get what they want it doesn't turn into a bitch fest.But it will....never fails.

I mean, there is a chance of absolutely nothing happening today, so I'm sure in that eventually the thread definitely won't be on fire.

[Wonderment2]

Orcs are technically aliens, not humans. Humans originated on Azeroth, Orcs did not.

True but humans have an alien origin via the Titans.

Tauren precursors and trolls don't have an origin beyond being on early Azeroth. That being said for me Tauren and trolls just evolved on Azeroth without a magical/divine reason is fine by me

[Catastrophy349]

It’s Monday. Alpha begins Thursday. Secret Alpha is Tuesday/Wednesday. Literally anything can happen. We could get info drops all week, tomorrow, Wednesday, not until Thursday, who knows. Regardless, I have my copium tank and I’m ready to go!

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Came from the elemental planes and then curse of flesh...


-.-(I hope thats not the case I hate the curse of flesh concept).


That image is SUPER LIT though

Elementals can turn to flesh naturally without the curse it’s how we got proto drakes.

[Sondrelk]

I mean they can use specific talents when they are mandatory for the playstyle, like the top talents - as I said. Besides that I have no clue how they want to do this because in many cases you always could build around a talent and then the tier bonus will be useless.

I could see them unlock some talents for free so you have another free point. This would make sense for bottom (aka the best) talents. Would be pretty boring though as a set bonus.

Will certainly be interesting to see what the bonuses will end up looking like. Blizzard essentially has two options, either make them entirely devoid of the talent tree options (or at most the mandatory talent) which is easier to balance but more boring. Or make bonuses that cater to specific builds and playstyles, which is more interesting and fun, but also likely to lead to pigeonholing during PvE seasons.

Not sure what option is actually best, but I am curious what it will end up being regardless.

[Cheezits]

I wonder if the potential for heavy Elemental lore (first raid in DF, dragons come from elements, elune?) is why Cairne got kicked back and Durotan didn't appear.

[Lady Atia]

Came from the elemental planes and then curse of flesh...


-.-(I hope thats not the case I hate the curse of flesh concept).


That image is SUPER LIT though

Well it would fit with Ordos being their fire elemental god in Pandaria.

[Raetary]

I mean, where the YAUNGOL came from.

I mean sure, but that is clearly not a Yaungol.
The Yaungol where hanging around the South of Kalimdor throughout all of their history, a long ass way from the Isles.

If that model has any importance, it's probably gonna be some new Tauren tribe that allied itself with (black) dragons and ended up there, rather than be their origin story.

But then again, Centaur were the spawn of Theradras and whatever the name of Cenarius' son was, and now we have a whole tribe that is completely unrelated to them and predates their relationship.
So, who knows?

[Hyrja]

Things Id like to see today:

- Confirmation of a summit (if any)
- Datamineable build
- More talent trees
- Dragonflight systems blueposts
- Videos with developers talking about whats coming in the Alpha and what they worked on

[Lady Atia]

It’s Monday. Alpha begins Thursday. Secret Alpha is Tuesday/Wednesday. Literally anything can happen. We could get info drops all week, tomorrow, Wednesday, not until Thursday, who knows. Regardless, I have my copium tank and I’m ready to go!

Well T&E said it's gonna be a busy week and they already ramped up infos last week. So I think we will get something new every day 'till the invites go out on Thursday. And the datamining should be available before that unless they encrypt it 'till Thursday.

[Catastrophy349]

Things Id like to see today:

- Confirmation of a summit (if any)
- Datamineable build
- More talent trees
- Dragonflight systems blueposts
- Videos with developers talking about whats coming in the Alpha and what they worked on

That’s a lot of hopium.

[Grimmy17]

When exactly was this the case? Because unused talent doesn't equal "talent I did not pick". They never had tier sets revolving around talent choices, it was always for skills you always get (let it be unused or not).

I was alluding more towards unpicked talents being involved - just from the top of my head current frost DK has glacial advance (a dead talent for the majority of this and previous expansions), assa rogue got a version of exsanguinate for their dots etc. These examples are from the most recent raid, so I don't think it's a far cry for blizzard to make a tier set surrounding something that gets skipped often in the new trees?

[Cheezits]

But then again, Centaur were the spawn of Theradras and whatever the name of Cenarius' son was, and now we have a whole tribe that is completely unrelated to them and predates their relationship.
So, who knows?

Definitely could be the spawn of Cenarius and an elemental from the Isles. Or from another one of his kids.