Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Grimmy17]

Good morning! It’s me, copium. I just want everyone to keep their expectations VERY high and enjoy the ride.

Doctor's orders to inhale the copium!

p.s. I like your new profile pic

[Nebron]

I don't think we can make it three but I at least hope for two as well. Maybe someone can change the channel for the narrative team so they watch less MCU and Game of Thrones and more The Boys? Heck let's go to classic fantasy and have them watch WoT.

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At the very least I'd expect to keep it as a normal flying mount.

What I want is mounted combat

TBH, I'm pretty much 99% positive that they learned at last, that people are not really interested in cosmic themes and that they don't have enough source material for now to build huge, end-game bosses for 'grandiose', multi-layered narratives.

As already stated multiple times -> I strongly believe that after classic success, they will switch to more grounded, fantasy-like story-telling structures. Also, I do believe that Dragonflight with possibly Murozond being the end boss for that xpac, will be a gateway for complete Azeroth revamp.
On top of that, 'bringing' world to it's natural state with Aspects being it's wardens again is a perfect opportunity for us to lose our 'limitless powers' in order to funnel it back to retired Aspects. That's my bet

So to sum up - in my opinion, 10.0 is a testing ground for 'bringing back' the classic experience into modern WoW (talents, getting rid of so called borrowed power, new movement mechanisms and possibly new systems overall), as well as a perfect opportunity for story reset.
Murozond = Time Skip
Time skip = an opportunity to tell the missing story through, I don't know, RTS maybe, like... Warcraft 4?

[Lady Atia]

Why not Game of Thrones? As long as it's only the first 4-5 seasons though. When stuff made sense.

I agree with the MCU though. Warcraft shouldn't be a superhero story.

And it needs more worldbuilding, the MCU has 0 worldbuilding.

Yeah sure, no worldbuilding. You are aware that both phase 1 and phase 4 are basically pure worldbuilding phases for the MCU? And even the other phases did always do worldbuilding alongside the interconnected story arc.

But I guess you will also say that Shadowlands had 0 worldbuilding either, right?

[Kiria]

Good morning! It’s me, copium. I just want everyone to keep their expectations VERY high and enjoy the ride.

*Inhales*

*cough cough cough*

Godayum I'm excited!

[Raetary]

Today is my plopped into existence day, so we can with complete certainty say that today we'll get absolutely nothing.

[Catastrophy349]

So excited!! 3 months since announcement. I need a filling!

[8bithamster]

Yeah sure, no worldbuilding. You are aware that both phase 1 and phase 4 are basically pure worldbuilding phases for the MCU? And even the other phases did always do worldbuilding alongside the interconnected story arc.

But I guess you will also say that Shadowlands had 0 worldbuilding either, right?

Don't worry.. he's comparing GoT (novels with a lot of room for world building) to comics (where limited space and style gives no real space for world building as much as novels do).

[Nyel]

Also I was thinking, they could always rez Y'shaarj.

In that regard, an expansion without a proper troll raid is a lost expansion.

[Catastrophy349]

Anyone want to bet on Baine’s role in Dragonflight?

[Hugnomo]

It's alpha week (hopefuly)
My expectations are at: At least getting the new Alexstrasza model to marvel at.
Looking forward to evokers spells too!

[Xilurm]

Yeah sure, no worldbuilding. You are aware that both phase 1 and phase 4 are basically pure worldbuilding phases for the MCU? And even the other phases did always do worldbuilding alongside the interconnected story arc.

But I guess you will also say that Shadowlands had 0 worldbuilding either, right?

Wut? Shadowlands had plenty of worldbuilding. Had new zones and we learned what each was for etc. What worldbuilding was there in Phase 1 and 4? I don't remember any depth to it. Unless you mean character building, because that's different.

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Don't worry.. he's comparing GoT (novels with a lot of room for world building) to comics (where limited space and style gives no real space for world building as much as novels do).

I don't know what's wrong with that. We're comparing which type of medium would be best for WoW to adopt. I think it should focus less on its characters and more on the world itself.

[Revamp Man]

I have to agree with that. I love alts but the game actually needs to be able to offer progression for a main character for most of the life of each patch. If I can be done progressing in 2-3 months while the patch lasts 6-8, there is a problem.

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I think Dracthyr customization should come next together with an Evoker blog post; perhaps the two can be combined in a mega post. In past expacs the first alpha build was entirely on the new class (I think that was true in both Wrath and Legion).

The dracthyr post will definitely have the customization options in it
Literally covering everything players will want to know

[Catastrophy349]

Wut? Shadowlands had plenty of worldbuilding. Had new zones and we learned what each was for etc. What worldbuilding was there in Phase 1 and 4? I don't remember any depth to it. Unless you mean character building, because that's different.

Phase 1 was Karazhan, Gruul’s Lair, and Magtheridan’s Lair. Phase 4 was Zul’Aman. Both very boring.

[Grimmy17]

In that regard, an expansion without a proper troll raid is a lost expansion.

A troll dungeon/raid would be cherry on top of a dragon expansion. Can't beat the atmosphere and the interactions of a troll zone!

I would really like a new caverns of time dungeon personally, maybe fighting around galakronds feet/wings whilst the aspects interact with Tyr and get empowered for the first time? That would be amazing!

[Catastrophy349]

A troll dungeon/raid would be cherry on top of a dragon expansion. Can't beat the atmosphere and the interactions of a troll zone!

I would really like a new caverns of time dungeon personally, maybe fighting around galakronds feet/wings whilst the aspects interact with Tyr and get empowered for the first time? That would be amazing!

I think we will definitely get a “Infinite/Bronze Dragonflight” style dungeon(s). However, I doubt it’ll be in CoT. More likely to be in that Bronze Dragonflight area with the huge Bronze looking structure.

[Grimmy17]

I think we will definitely get a “Infinite/Bronze Dragonflight” style dungeon(s). However, I doubt it’ll be in CoT. More likely to be in that Bronze Dragonflight area with the huge Bronze looking structure.

Aye. From what I can summise, it seems as though everyone is under the impression our "end boss" is Muruzond? If that's the case I fully endorse bronze/infinite dungeons raids - some of my favourite voice lines are the infinite dragons because of the cool sound effects.

[Xilurm]

Phase 1 was Karazhan, Gruul’s Lair, and Magtheridan’s Lair. Phase 4 was Zul’Aman. Both very boring.

I thought we were talking about the MCU phases...

[Marlamin]

Good for me I didn't sign up any NDA, will just push the buttons

Me neither, I don't think I would even sign one if offered as it'd very much limit what I'm able to talk about and maybe cause issues down the line with this line of work.

[Nyel]

Phase 1 was Karazhan, Gruul’s Lair, and Magtheridan’s Lair. Phase 4 was Zul’Aman. Both very boring.

I think he's talking about MCU Phase 1 and 4, lol.

[Grimmy17]

I think he's talking about MCU Phase 1 and 4, lol.

To be fair, Phase 4 (MCU) has been rather lackluster thus far...

I'll have no bad words said about the trolls though - Love me some troll raid action