Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Kiriastrasza]

I have surgery later this evening, so I'm hoping for a public build before that or just after so I can soak it all up!

Wish you luck in whatever it is you're having done, personally working 12 hour shifts so yeah

[Grimmy17]

Wish you luck in whatever it is you're having done, personally working 12 hour shifts so yeah

I'm the surgeon But i'll take the luck regardless! Here's hoping we get shiny new models, icons, transmog and evoker stuff!

[Nymrohd]

I have surgery later this evening, so I'm hoping for a public build before that or just after so I can soak it all up!

Good luck with your surgery, hope everything turns out well! And hey, you might have something to read during recovery But I think it will be Thursday.

[Lady Atia]

I'm the surgeon But i'll take the luck regardless! Here's hoping we get shiny new models, icons, transmog and evoker stuff!

Haha well that was a plottwist! Break a leg <3 (or wait, don't do that).

[Kiriastrasza]

I'm the surgeon But i'll take the luck regardless! Here's hoping we get shiny new models, icons, transmog and evoker stuff!

I wish we could like posts, this is awesome

[Nymrohd]

Any chance we see the Pantheon during Dragonflight? We now have access to them and we have some dragons looking to become Aspects (though I think that instead we will see the power dispersed across the flights to revitalize them).

[Stiven]

If we get datamining before Thursday, that puts the people under NDA/embargo in a weird position where they can't talk about anything that's being datamined by the various sites/community for 2 full days.

The only way to fix that is to give anyone with early access only access to an encrypted client, but with that also comes the danger of someone leaking the key and (some) sites datamining it anyways, or even worse, gives access to earlier builds encrypted with the same key as well. There's currently 2 armadillo encryption keys out there, 1 for wowdev builds and 1 for vendor builds, neither of which Blizzard probably want to see hit the public.

If they were to roll with a secret client for the early access event they'll either have to create a separate directory on the CDN for it encrypted with a new key specific to this event (with the danger of it still leaking early), or by doing the entire preview outside of the public through VPN and/or remote cloud-based sessions or literally on location at Blizz (which is possible in Towelliee's case but not so much for Taliesin). Hmmmm!

Either way, I'm going to be keeping a close eye on things tomorrow as that should be set-up day for whatever happens the rest of the week.

Good for me I didn't sign up any NDA, will just push the buttons

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Any chance we see the Pantheon during Dragonflight? We now have access to them and we have some dragons looking to become Aspects (though I think that instead we will see the power dispersed across the flights to revitalize them).

The Pantheon is stuck at the Seat of the Pantheon. They cannot leave their position unless they want to free Sargeras and again since Sargeras will always try to counter Order it makes zero sense for that to occur other than something or someone disrupting the Pantheon.

We will receive new Titan Lore via Tyr's own Disk via the new Uldaman chambers akin to what we received in Vanilla from the Discs of Norgannon (Name not canon anymore but ayy lmao memes). There's also likely a candidate titanic testing facility on the Dragon Isles although with the current images that is a bit more unclear as it could be the Testing area is the seat of power itself and what not IDK we'll see how this one goes.

Note that current speculation is: 10.1 is Drac'Thyr Island with Raid most likely being centered on Neltharion's threat he saw underneath the Drac'Thyr Island and made the Drac'Thyrs for to fight whatever that is, 10.2 being the final patch (is joke, or is it?) with Murozond obviously. So there might not be a Titan Facility Raid tier. Although who knows. Maybe it is a quest hub, dungeon or something else.

Although knowing this Narrative Team we have a theme switch in 10.2 and we end up at the border of the Universe fighting Galactus and Voidlords.

[Nymrohd]

Also I was thinking, they could always rez Y'shaarj.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Also I was thinking, they could always rez Y'shaarj.

I mean they could do anything. It is what makes the prospect of the fact Dragon Isles is set on a 4 zone island and with very little buildup beyond the Primal Raid Tier and the Drac'Thyr Starting Zone Raid Tier a bit worrying as it means the Narrative Team can once again do the extremely annoying narrative theme switch in the middle of the expansion which usually always lead to complete disaster and meltdown of any laymen person understanding the narrative.

[Grimmy17]

Although knowing this Narrative Team we have a theme switch in 10.2 and we end up at the border of the Universe fighting Galactus and Voidlords.

Plsno - completely avoiding any cosmic related WoW lore should be the main goal for the next 3 expansions at least. Build up the big void lord threat sure, but if they take us to a new "zereth" every other expansion i'm gonna be mad.

[Xilurm]

Imagine Dragonriding ends up being really fun and they stop doing it after DF. That would suck.

[Grimmy17]

Imagine Dragonriding ends up being really fun and they stop doing it after DF. That would suck.

I'm gonna make a leaderboard with my guild about who can dive bomb closest to the ground without dying. Plus if they make me leave behind my beloved dragon after I braid it's hair and give it shiny armor, I'll be sad

[Nymrohd]

Plsno - completely avoiding any cosmic related WoW lore should be the main goal for the next 3 expansions at least. Build up the big void lord threat sure, but if they take us to a new "zereth" every other expansion i'm gonna be mad.

I don't think we can make it three but I at least hope for two as well. Maybe someone can change the channel for the narrative team so they watch less MCU and Game of Thrones and more The Boys? Heck let's go to classic fantasy and have them watch WoT.

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I'm gonna make a leaderboard with my guild about who can dive bomb closest to the ground without dying. Plus if they make me leave behind my beloved dragon after I braid it's hair and give it shiny armor, I'll be sad

At the very least I'd expect to keep it as a normal flying mount.

What I want is mounted combat

[Lady Atia]

I don't think we can make it three but I at least hope for two as well. Maybe someone can change the channel for the narrative team so they watch less MCU and Game of Thrones and more The Boys? Heck let's go to classic fantasy and have them watch WoT.

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At the very least I'd expect to keep it as a normal flying mount.

What I want is mounted combat

Oh god no. I like "The Boys" but I don't want that grimdark stuff in my WoW. The MCU is awesome and the best story universe out there and I would hate it if Blizzard would change their current style. Also, didn't the WoT series flop hard? I only watched the first few episodes and it got boring quite fast.

And yeah, the dragons will prolly end up as normal mounts in the worst case, just like artifacts which became normal transmogs down the line.

[Catastrophy349]

Good morning! It’s me, copium. I just want everyone to keep their expectations VERY high and enjoy the ride.

[Lady Atia]

Good morning! It’s me, copium. I just want everyone to keep their expectations VERY high and enjoy the ride.

Hey copium!

*inhales deeply*

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[Xilurm]

I don't think we can make it three but I at least hope for two as well. Maybe someone can change the channel for the narrative team so they watch less MCU and Game of Thrones and more The Boys? Heck let's go to classic fantasy and have them watch WoT.

Why not Game of Thrones? As long as it's only the first 4-5 seasons though. When stuff made sense.

I agree with the MCU though. Warcraft shouldn't be a superhero story.

And it needs more worldbuilding, the MCU has 0 worldbuilding.

[Grimmy17]

Good morning! It’s me, copium. I just want everyone to keep their expectations VERY high and enjoy the ride.

Doctor's orders to inhale the copium!

p.s. I like your new profile pic

[Nebron]

I don't think we can make it three but I at least hope for two as well. Maybe someone can change the channel for the narrative team so they watch less MCU and Game of Thrones and more The Boys? Heck let's go to classic fantasy and have them watch WoT.

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At the very least I'd expect to keep it as a normal flying mount.

What I want is mounted combat

TBH, I'm pretty much 99% positive that they learned at last, that people are not really interested in cosmic themes and that they don't have enough source material for now to build huge, end-game bosses for 'grandiose', multi-layered narratives.

As already stated multiple times -> I strongly believe that after classic success, they will switch to more grounded, fantasy-like story-telling structures. Also, I do believe that Dragonflight with possibly Murozond being the end boss for that xpac, will be a gateway for complete Azeroth revamp.
On top of that, 'bringing' world to it's natural state with Aspects being it's wardens again is a perfect opportunity for us to lose our 'limitless powers' in order to funnel it back to retired Aspects. That's my bet

So to sum up - in my opinion, 10.0 is a testing ground for 'bringing back' the classic experience into modern WoW (talents, getting rid of so called borrowed power, new movement mechanisms and possibly new systems overall), as well as a perfect opportunity for story reset.
Murozond = Time Skip
Time skip = an opportunity to tell the missing story through, I don't know, RTS maybe, like... Warcraft 4?