Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Veluren]

Prove what to whom? Some vocal minority who blindly hates whatever Blizzard does. Who will screech that some photoshop is so much better, disregarding a flat image is not a 3d model etc? Those people?

Yea, I'm glad Blizzard doesn't prove anything to that minority within the fanbase.

God, yeah, the circular arguing about aesthetic in the Dracthyr threads is why I haven't involved myself despite being excited for the race, people literally got WHAT THEY WANTED with the buffer frames and are now finding other things to complain about or declaring it not enough.

[Nebron]

I mean... we do have a "secret" villain because we don't have a box villain like we had in previous expansions (up until MoP and then again in WoD and Legion). I think if it really would be Murozond, we'd know about that already because it's the most likely outcome. I mean Murzond as final boss would be as much a surprise as N'zoth in BfA...

Well, I didn't mean surprise in the N'zoth sense, or even Archimonde lol
It's more like, I'm totally willing to accept a main villian who's lore is being developed early from the beginning / end-game of the 1st tier patch. Such villain doesn't need to be on the box as well, just like Jailer wasn't on the box with Bolvar being there instead. And in fact Jailer was pretty much our villian from the beginning.

And to be honest, I'm not convinved Xal'atath to be as much of a surprise as Murozond would. We have some 'potential leaks' since the announcement that Muroznd could the villian. Also, after all... he's a dragon
Yeah, Xal'atath is an Old God, but still, that would be a stretch to assume there's more connection between Xal'Atath and expansion about dragons than between well-established dragon itself and dragon-themed expansion but I'm willing to change my mind here

Nevertheless, I might be biased by a few orders of magnitude, since I strongly believe that Murozond and Aspects comeback in general are Blizzard's gateway for WoW reset. Murozond in the sense of time-travel into the future

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Plus they look amazing!

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wo...20220419181248

Yup, they totally do!

[Nyel]

For me the ideal would be for an area to exist in the map that is just not accessible early on but is still part of the same continent. Then you can add the raid on it.

But really Shadowlands was easily the expansion with the most disconnected experience, quite worse than Cata in that regard.

That's why I mentioned a floating area high above the Dragon Isles where you first need to progress Dragonriding to reach it. It musn't be unlockable in 10.0, it just can float there and during the course of the expansion when we are trained enough in Dragonriding we can finally fly to that place which is not only the first new zone, but offers a raid etc.

[Hyrja]

MrGM just said hes flying somewhere on friday, maybe they invite different content creators on different days?
Who knows.

[Berkilak]

I disagree, the dragon form looked fine, now I want more info on my visage form.

Are you going to dislike it, based on currently available information? While I dislike that it is limited in terms of reusing the chosen rigs, I understand how they're going to look out in the wild. I'm fine with it. No amount of additional customization options would make me like or dislike it more. For me, it's going to be a scaled Blood Elf, at its core, no matter how good or bad they look.

I wouldn't be opposed to more information, but I just don't see the urgency on this. Especially relative to the actual dragon form.

[Cheezits]

Yeah, Xal'atath is an Old God, but still, that would be a stretch to assume there's more connection between Xal'Atath and expansion about dragons than between well-established dragon itself and dragon-themed expansion but I'm willing to change my mind here

Murozond was stated to have been corrupted by the Old Gods. As currently all the Old Gods are dead/regenerating, save for Xal'atath who may or may not be an Old God herself and was made into a major character in BFA (the same expansion that sets up Dragon Isles), and Murozond has not yet been created in the main timeline, it's not a huge jump to assume that Xal may play a part in corrupting Nozdormu.

There's going to be at least one villain who is not the main theme in this expansion, as usual per expansion variety, and it's likely Xal or Azshara.

[Bashtian]

MrGM just said hes flying somewhere on friday, maybe they invite different content creators on different days?
Who knows.

Pretty sure he's going to Twitchcon Amsterdam, it's this weekend ^^


• Edit: Confirmed on stream he's not :P

[8bithamster]

God, yeah, the circular arguing about aesthetic in the Dracthyr threads is why I haven't involved myself despite being excited for the race, people literally got WHAT THEY WANTED with the buffer frames and are now finding other things to complain about or declaring it not enough.

It's the same echo chamber circle jerk whenever a new class, race or armor set is shown. People will find things to whinge about.

[Catastrophy349]

MrGM just said hes flying somewhere on friday, maybe they invite different content creators on different days?
Who knows.

He’s just going away (not related to WoW at all).

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That's why I mentioned a floating area high above the Dragon Isles where you first need to progress Dragonriding to reach it. It musn't be unlockable in 10.0, it just can float there and during the course of the expansion when we are trained enough in Dragonriding we can finally fly to that place which is not only the first new zone, but offers a raid etc.

My dream!!! I would love to see our progression of Dragonriding do ALL or some of the following:

1). Increase in skill/level over the course of the expansion, not just 10.0 and abandon.

2). As you mentioned, it would be cool to see a floating zone, or even another place FAR in the distance out of our immediate view that we can’t access until our Dragonriding is higher (i.e. using our Dragonriding skill to justify going to a new area which would be a future patch).

3). I would love it if Dragonriding had the potential to open all kinds of content (areas to explore) ONLY once we’ve advanced our skill high enough.

For those saying (that’s FOMO and not fair to people who didn’t progress their Dragonriding high enough), I think a middle ground solution to this would be:

A). Catch-up system built in to easily catch up skill in the case of a new zone/area only being unlocked through higher Dragonriding skill

B). Make areas that require higher Dragonriding skill for cosmetic purposes ONLY. As long as there is NO player power tied to Dragonriding, go wild! Could be exactly what we need for outdoor content to freshen things up and keep people interested outside of instanced content.

[Cheezits]

God, yeah, the circular arguing about aesthetic in the Dracthyr threads is why I haven't involved myself despite being excited for the race, people literally got WHAT THEY WANTED with the buffer frames and are now finding other things to complain about or declaring it not enough.

It's mostly people disappointed that the race wasn't Drakonid, which is understandable. I don't think Dracthyr existing means Drakonid aren't ever happening though: they have a whole different niche and culture.

[Worldshaper]

https://twitter.com/towelthetank/sta...44186686590976

Tell me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time, without telling me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time.

[Catastrophy349]

It's mostly people disappointed that the race wasn't Drakonid, which is understandable. I don't think Dracthyr existing means Drakonid aren't ever happening though: they have a whole different niche and culture.

Blizzard set a really interesting precedent in BFA/SL:

1). Allied Races- the ability to add new race-ish options during an expansion versus ONLY as a box feature/at launch

2). Dark Ranger customization-imagine if we could unlock further race customization options IN-GAME through completing quests/activities like the Dark Ranger one.

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https://twitter.com/towelthetank/sta...44186686590976

Tell me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time, without telling me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time.

I know, right?

[Grimmy17]

https://twitter.com/towelthetank/sta...44186686590976

Tell me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time, without telling me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time.

Hahaha this is a perfect GIF for dragonriding!

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It's mostly people disappointed that the race wasn't Drakonid, which is understandable. I don't think Dracthyr existing means Drakonid aren't ever happening though: they have a whole different niche and culture.

I actually have to close the tab or avoid these conversations in full because the arguments are so odd.

"I WANT TO BE A DRAGON BUT COVER MYSELF UP WITH GEAR AND PLAY AS A BLOOD ELF IN COMBAT GGEZ" - Aboslutely infuriating

[TS26]

https://twitter.com/towelthetank/sta...44186686590976

Tell me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time, without telling me you're playing the Alpha and currently having a blast trying out Dragonriding for the first time.

or maybe he's playing GW2 on his dragon mount

[Catastrophy349]

or maybe he's playing GW2 on his dragon mount

Copium levels depleting

[TS26]

Copium levels depleting

im all out

[Nebron]

Murozond was stated to have been corrupted by the Old Gods. As currently all the Old Gods are dead/regenerating, save for Xal'atath who may or may not be an Old God herself and was made into a major character in BFA (the same expansion that sets up Dragon Isles), and Murozond has not yet been created in the main timeline, it's not a huge jump to assume that Xal may play a part in corrupting Nozdormu.

There's going to be at least one villain who is not the main theme in this expansion, as usual per expansion variety, and it's likely Xal or Azshara.

Well, that's fair to assume, yeah.
But damn, that's some heavy plotline there - Infinite Dragonflight & Old Gods - what a perfect opportunity for an overambitious writer to mess the lore up
I just jumped into the Wowpedia for a brief moment to recall some stuff about Infinite Dragonflight and boy, oh boy - meddling with timelines' lore is like walking on the minefiled

[Catastrophy349]

im all out

Should get a re-fill for today

[Sondrelk]

He’s just going away (not related to WoW at all).

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My dream!!! I would love to see our progression of Dragonriding do ALL or some of the following:

1). Increase in skill/level over the course of the expansion, not just 10.0 and abandon.

2). As you mentioned, it would be cool to see a floating zone, or even another place FAR in the distance out of our immediate view that we can’t access until our Dragonriding is higher (i.e. using our Dragonriding skill to justify going to a new area which would be a future patch).

3). I would love it if Dragonriding had the potential to open all kinds of content (areas to explore) ONLY once we’ve advanced our skill high enough.

For those saying (that’s FOMO and not fair to people who didn’t progress their Dragonriding high enough), I think a middle ground solution to this would be:

A). Catch-up system built in to easily catch up skill in the case of a new zone/area only being unlocked through higher Dragonriding skill

B). Make areas that require higher Dragonriding skill for cosmetic purposes ONLY. As long as there is NO player power tied to Dragonriding, go wild! Could be exactly what we need for outdoor content to freshen things up and keep people interested outside of instanced content.

Could go for some smoke and mirrors when going there. You fly there with NPC dragons to begin with, opening flight paths, and then once you progress there you get better at Dragonriding until you can fly there without issues.

[Cheezits]

Well, that's fair to assume, yeah.
But damn, that's some heavy plotline there - Infinite Dragonflight & Old Gods - what a perfect opportunity for an overambitious writer to mess the lore up
I just jumped into the Wowpedia for a brief moment to recall some stuff about Infinite Dragonflight and boy, oh boy - meddling with timelines' lore is like walking on the minefiled

All you have to do is have Xal pop in, corrupt Nozdormu and disappear. It's not a huge jump and ties back to the Old Gods always fucking over the dragons and trying to control them.