Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

There’s certainly a lot that they can do with Dragonflight lore wise. People hated BFA (I didn’t but I understand their reasons); however, while they shoved too many stories into one expansion, it did open up a lot of possibilities for future expansions (in other words, expansions post BFA (SL, DF, etc.)). So, I’m curious to see more Old God stuff, Azshara, Xal, maybe Pantheon (Illidan and Sargeras, too) eventually, and of course, the remnants of Dragon lore (Wrathion story, Kalec story, Ysera’s “daughter’s” story, Nozdormu——>Murozond story, and Alexstrasza story).

Azshara being part of Dragonflight would be another fantastic thing.

[Catastrophy349]

Azshara being part of Dragonflight would be another fantastic thing.

She is searching for a seat of power, no? Dragon Isles could be VERY crucial to furthering the plot.

[Grimmy17]

Azshara being part of Dragonflight would be another fantastic thing.

I'd like to keep her out of it - save her for the underground expansion... She did spend all that time under the surface

[Catastrophy349]

I really want to see a “WotLK” format for raid tiers, too. Keep the patch cycle and raid tiers ON the Dragon Isles, please. Let the Dragon Isles be important for more than just the 10.0 launch. Wrath did this so well. I feel like Dragon Isles can be perfect, too, due to the nature of elevation from starting to end leveling zones as well as the Dragon Aspect theme.

[Nebron]

I think the return of Xalatath, maybe as the secret main villain, would be really cool. That she's seeking something in those Old God temples or facilities or whatever. Would be a good interlude to a Void expansion, too.

Xalatath? Sure, why not. But no more secret villians please
I'd be good with Murozond as a main boss for that xpac with us exploring this plotlines since the very first experience with Bronze Dragonflights in DF (Inifnite Dragonflight involved).

Although, wouldn't be surprised to see A LOT of Xalatath/ Old Goids vs. Wrathion and Black Dragonflight's genetic tendency to be messed up by whispers and chaotic forces.

Also, we get Primal Incarnates as a first main villian for that expansion so I'd expect to see a lot of lore around that, and Elemental Lords who infused them with power. By the way, it's so fantasy-like plot, I do love that idea. Now it's all about execution

[Grimmy17]

Xalatath? Sure, why not. But no more secret villians please
I'd be good with Murozond as a main boss for that xpac with us exploring this plotlines since the very first experience with Bronze Dragonflights in DF (Inifnite Dragonflight involved).

Although, wouldn't be surprised to see A LOT of Xalatath/ Old Goids vs. Wrathion and Black Dragonflight's genetic tendency to be messed up by whispers and chaotic forces.

Also, we get Primal Incarnates as a first main villian for that expansion so I'd expect to see a lot of lore around that, and Elemental Lords who infused them with power. By the way, it's so fantasy-like plot, I do love that idea. Now it's all about execution

Plus they look amazing!

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wo...20220419181248

[Catastrophy349]

Here is my BIGGEST problem with Shadowlands lore (before anyone tries to bite my head off, this is not the ONLY problem I had, this is just one of the most concerning (IMO)):

We went through 4 leveling zones, established connections to each from Oribos, and learned some pretty interesting stories. However, for raids we got:

1). Castle Nathria (Revendreth)
2). Sanctum (The Maw)
3). Sepulcher (Zereth Mortis)

So, what’s wrong with this picture? The first raid was perfect. It made sense. The whole build up with the Anima drought, Sire Denathrius working with the Jailer (so we think), Revendreth as the final zone; all of this made sense for the first raid to take place at the end of the story campaign/final leveling zone.

Then, we got Sanctum. In the Maw. A place where the Jailer has been locked up forever and was supposed to be a pretty significant place in the realm of Death. Why? Whyyyyy?

We just abandoned Maldraxxus, Ardenweald, and Bastion? And cherry on top, the last raid tier was in another NEW zone (Sepulcher). Again, I ask why?

I understand that there are rumors for cut content (a possible Drust/Ardenweald raid); however, let’s live in reality for a second. We had 3 other leveling zones and this is where the raids went??

Now, look at Wrath. Wrath used Borean Tundra (Malygos), Dragonblight (Naxxramas, OS, AND Ruby Sanctum), Ulduar (Storm Peaks), TotGC (IceCrown), VoA (Wintergrasp), and ICC (IceCrown). Look how spread out that is? We didn’t need to add new zones because we had the story grounded already in these.

Please, let the Dragon Isles be more than a single patch!!

[Khaza-R]

I would expect 10.0 and 10.1 to take place in the Dragon Isles with a hypothetical 10.2 and 10.3 being in new or re-used areas.

Pretty much every modern expansion has followed this format except WoD. Even with Shadowlands, the Maw technically was the Shadowlands equivalent to Suramar.

[Catastrophy349]

I would expect 10.0 and 10.1 to take place in the Dragon Isles with a hypothetical 10.2 and 10.3 being in new or re-used areas.

Pretty much every modern expansion has followed this format except WoD. Even with Shadowlands, the Maw technically was the Shadowlands equivalent to Suramar.

100%. My argument wasn’t meant to be “Keep ALL patches and raids on these 4 zones ONLY”. I was more so asking for them not to neglect the zones as much as they did in SL. Also, it would be cool if they added zones TO the Dragon Isles (think MoP Timeless Isle and Isle of Thunder) instead of adding zones that aren’t even remotely close to the Dragon Isles.

[MightyWarrior]

Servers might go up tonight, datamining begins, and alpha starts on Thursday?

[Nyel]

Xalatath? Sure, why not. But no more secret villians please
I'd be good with Murozond as a main boss for that xpac with us exploring this plotlines since the very first experience with Bronze Dragonflights in DF (Inifnite Dragonflight involved).

Although, wouldn't be surprised to see A LOT of Xalatath/ Old Goids vs. Wrathion and Black Dragonflight's genetic tendency to be messed up by whispers and chaotic forces.

Also, we get Primal Incarnates as a first main villian for that expansion so I'd expect to see a lot of lore around that, and Elemental Lords who infused them with power. By the way, it's so fantasy-like plot, I do love that idea. Now it's all about execution

I mean... we do have a "secret" villain because we don't have a box villain like we had in previous expansions (up until MoP and then again in WoD and Legion). I think if it really would be Murozond, we'd know about that already because it's the most likely outcome. I mean Murzond as final boss would be as much a surprise as N'zoth in BfA...

[Catastrophy349]

Servers might go up tonight, datamining begins, and alpha starts on Thursday?

Tin foil hat time:

-NDA Alpha is today/tomorrow
-Viewer Alpha is Thursday
-More blog posts/talents between now and then
-Datamining at some point, too (of course)

Now, what IF we got to see a preview/sneak peak of the NDA Alpha stuff? Not sure why, how, what, or when, but wouldn’t that be epic!

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I mean... we do have a "secret" villain because we don't have a box villain like we had in previous expansions (up until MoP and then again in WoD and Legion). I think if it really would be Murozond, we'd know about that already because it's the most likely outcome. I mean Murzond as final boss would be as much a surprise as N'zoth in BfA...

So far, I’m very happy with the parallels between Dragonflight and MoP. Exactly what we need after SL.

[MightyWarrior]

I remember watching the WoD alpha and Legion alpha during early hours of the morning since im from UK. Very hyped atm!

[Berkilak]

We need a visage blog to show how we can customize our visage when out of combat, this is highly important and needed to be reviewed!

They're scaled blood elf males and humans females. Either that appeals to you or it doesn't. How customizable that concept is is immaterial. The actual dragon form was the controversial bit in which Blizzard had "something to prove."

[Valysar]

Imo, alpha datamining is the best time of the year.

[Kiivar86]

Plus they look amazing!

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wo...20220419181248

I know they have wings (as the right side of the image shows) but a part of me kinda wants some of them to be wingless and just kinda...funky giant dragon kangaroo like. Its an interesting look.

[Cheezits]

So far, I’m very happy with the parallels between Dragonflight and MoP. Exactly what we need after SL.

Funny how BFA was the narrative successor to MOP, with purposefully similar themes and stories (and even featuring Mists races and the land itself), but DF is much more similar in the ideas, the race and the reputation stories.

[Kiria]

They're scaled blood elf males and humans females. Either that appeals to you or it doesn't. How customizable that concept is is immaterial. The actual dragon form was the controversial bit in which Blizzard had "something to prove."

I disagree, the dragon form looked fine, now I want more info on my visage form.

[8bithamster]

They're scaled blood elf males and humans females. Either that appeals to you or it doesn't. How customizable that concept is is immaterial. The actual dragon form was the controversial bit in which Blizzard had "something to prove."

Prove what to whom? Some vocal minority who blindly hates whatever Blizzard does. Who will screech that some photoshop is so much better, disregarding a flat image is not a 3d model etc? Those people?

Yea, I'm glad Blizzard doesn't prove anything to that minority within the fanbase.

[Nymrohd]

100%. My argument wasn’t meant to be “Keep ALL patches and raids on these 4 zones ONLY”. I was more so asking for them not to neglect the zones as much as they did in SL. Also, it would be cool if they added zones TO the Dragon Isles (think MoP Timeless Isle and Isle of Thunder) instead of adding zones that aren’t even remotely close to the Dragon Isles.

For me the ideal would be for an area to exist in the map that is just not accessible early on but is still part of the same continent. Then you can add the raid on it.

But really Shadowlands was easily the expansion with the most disconnected experience, quite worse than Cata in that regard.