Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Catastrophy349]

Did anyone catch Bayard Wu's latest twitter media? https://twitter.com/bayard_wu/status...340354/photo/1

They're such a talented artist it's unreal

Yeah, posted it yesterday! Waiting for a certain streamer to come online.

[Kiria]

Its just cringe to read the artificial hype a certain user is trying to generate for several days.

You dont have to read their posts, and tbh at least someones being positive, negative nancies need to find something else to do.

[Baedril]

Its just cringe to read the artificial hype a certain user is trying to generate for several days.

"How dare people be hyped in the hype thread!"

Anyway, is it actually confirmed in any way that there's alpha today or is it still just (hopeful) speculation? I've been a bit out of the loop lately.

[Catastrophy349]

You dont have to read their posts, and tbh at least someones being positive, negative nancies need to find something else to do.

I just can’t imagine hating something, yet putting more time and energy into worrying about it than not. If I hated WoW, or it’s current state, this is NOT the place I would be hanging out.

[Lady Atia]

Its just cringe to read the artificial hype a certain user is trying to generate for several days.

I'm enjoying his posts far more than any naysayers, pessimists or outright toxic persons ones.

He managed to generate hype for me, so it's great he is here. If you don't like him, just put him on ignore ffs.

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"How dare people be hyped in the hype thread!"

Anyway, is it actually confirmed in any way that there's alpha today or is it still just (hopeful) speculation? I've been a bit out of the loop lately.

Windows Central did report on the Alpha starting today:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/windows...hursday-327610

[Kiria]

I just can’t imagine hating something, yet putting more time and energy into worrying about it than not. If I hated WoW, or it’s current state, this is NOT the place I would be hanging out.

Absolutely agreed, so tired of seeing all the negativity so Im finding your positivity to be a breath of fresh air

[Nebron]

"How dare people be hyped in the hype thread!"

Anyway, is it actually confirmed in any way that there's alpha today or is it still just (hopeful) speculation? I've been a bit out of the loop lately.

Not confirmed officially, but since there's a lot of top streamers activity invovled around this topic, leaked screenshots of closed alpha that's certainly under NDA, official ad of DF in german and historical record shows it's Thursday for alpha deployment, I'd consider it a safe bet if my pocket-money was at the stake

[Neviriah]

I love optimistic or hype-generating posts so much more than naysayers or pessimists or "realists" or whatever word it is we use for those nowadays. <3

[Nebron]

Its just cringe to read the artificial hype a certain user is trying to generate for several days.

It's always a good idea to check if a random negative post from a random person is just a random accident or a pattern. Yep, it's a pattern in your case. You can let others have fun by closing this site now, bye.

[Grimmy17]

Windows Central did report on the Alpha starting today:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/windows...hursday-327610

Missed this, is Windows Central usually a good source?

[Catastrophy349]

I think it’s fine and healthy to have people debate/counter any information that comes out with a different perspective. Being narrow minded can cause a lot of anger, anxiety, and false perception toward Blizzard if things turn bad (Shadowlands). However, there’s a smart way of doing this. Coming into this thread (like some others have done) and just bashing the game before it’s even in Alpha is mind-blowing to me.

[Neviriah]

I think it’s fine and healthy to have people debate/counter any information that comes out with a different perspective. Being narrow minded can cause a lot of anger, anxiety, and false perception toward Blizzard if things turn bad (Shadowlands). However, there’s a smart way of doing this. Coming into this thread (like some others have done) and just bashing the game before it’s even in Alpha is mind-blowing to me.

I agree with you here, 100%. ^_^

[SovietBabeyyy]

The question is, its genuine „hype“.

Or a agenda?

[Nyel]

We actually have more than 4 months left if its releasing the later half of Nov/December. And I can guarantee all 13 classes are not gonna be available the first alpha build lol. Shadowlands had like 2 classes available for testing during the first alpha build. They'll add more classes week by week

We don't have more than four months left because the pre-patch needs to hit in 4 months or less. And classes need to be ready by then.

[Wonderment2]

I'd love an undead Galakrond fight.

Imagine him as a elemental undead empowered by all four elements

[Kaesebrezen]

Well, we have more than 4 months till the end of year but that aside, people continue to make a lot of assumptions - well, it's fair - but just because they PURPOSEFULLY allow to test 5 classes, it doesn't mean that other 8 classes are not ready. It's equally probable that they target these 5 classes first. It might be 2 classes each week and it would still take a month. Wouldn't that make sense to narrow down the available content to receive as specific data as possible in return?

What exactly is the purpose of not testing classes that are ready?

Focus feedback? That's not going to happen, someone who plays hunter, priest, paladin, will not give you feedback on shaman, druid, mage if those are the classes available. A die-hard arms warrior will not give you feedback on fury. You virtually just stop any feedback at all on focused channels. If there is any datamineable content for a class present, then you'd run into severe speculation cluttering all forums - harming the actual feedback.

In the past devs usually cycled through their assigned classes, work on feedback (maybe), and make changes. Then swap to another class and do something with the feedback. The thing is, why delay classes that are ready to generate feedback for this? If changes are planned, the classes are not ready. If no changes are planned until feedback, the classes are ready.

There is only one reason for not all classes being present: They're not ready. That means we have at most 4 months for class and talent testing. Unless they changed something, we also know that ~1 month before pre-patch goes live class changes stopped (Ion even talked about that in this interview: https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...le-for-Azeroth). So while we have 5 months until the end of the year, you can effectively substract 2 weeks of pre-patch and 1 month of no more changes. That's 3.5 months of testing and feedback. Releasing classes over the course of a month is, well, pretty bad.

[Catastrophy349]

I don’t think we should judge the entire expansion and it’s development on what goes “live” with Alpha today. They “could” be very far in development and simply showcase a few classes at a time for accurate testing.

If the goal is to test talent trees in their entirety, it’s better to have Alpha testers limited to only a few classes versus spreading them out across ALL classes. To Nyel’s point, yes, we still have pre-patch before launch and we have to be careful around holiday release (if it is coming before the end of 2022).

Honestly, it would be a sign of “good faith” if Blizzard released the remaining talent trees either with Alpha launch, or within the next few weeks, if they plan NOT to test all classes on Alpha immediately. Even if they don’t, I still don’t think it’s a means for concern.

On the other-hand, we are approaching crunch time in terms of a release date. Personally, if they can’t get everything they need done in time, it should be delayed 100%. Of course, again, the real question we need to ask to answer ALL of my above questions is: How far into development are they at this point in the cycle?

[Grimmy17]

Imagine him as a elemental undead empowered by all four elements

I'm really excited to see the in game models of the primal incarnate drakes, they could easily take inspiration from them for an empowered Galakrond - some of my favourite lore also!

[Catastrophy349]

The question is, its genuine „hype“.

Or a agenda?

No comment. This is just ridiculous (ok so I did comment).

[Nebron]

The question is, its genuine „hype“.

Or a agenda?

What? I look at mmo-champion from time to time. Now, that alpha might be right around the corner, I check it like an addict every 15 minutes or so. If that's not defining hype, I have no idea what does. And here you come, trying to debate now whether the hype is genuine or some sort of agenda - what would that even mean lol? Not to mention you came here to say it's cringe people geek out for alpha news. Well, it's cringe to come and put some random negative jibberish in the first place.