Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[klaps_05]

Mage talents look like the absolute worst choices. So much good stuff to pick from legion/bfa, but they chose some of the least used legos/sets or mega nerfed conduits which are useless without their extra ranks.

[Raetary]

Yeah but it’s nowhere in the talent tree?

Then it's probably a baseline ability.

[Wonderment2]

Hey Blizz ummmm wanna know what character that would be important like really important to these two.... grimtotems

This could be fanstastic. Shows blizzard are willing to revisit these older plotlines

[Nyel]

Not all abilities are in the talent tree. Some are still given as baseline abilities.

I thought that only applies to utilities or stuff like Astral Recall (and not to spec defining talents, I thought they are all either in the class or the spec tree).

[Cheezits]

I mean, Drag Isles just became accessible. Not sure how a Grimtotem managed to get their and get enough cred among Primalists.

Maybe access through the elemental plane/Lifelands? DI was only blocked to the rest of Azeroth.

[Khaza-R]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonr...27680#comments

Not inspiring much confidence in this new flying.

Depends how you view it. Dragonriding is meant to be more interactive. If you like that, then its superior to old flying.

[Nyel]

"I would say normal flying is superior because you don't have to do anything."

Removing something and then giving it back to us in a limited version with restrictions isn’t a game design choice that should be cherished.

If we wouldn’t have had flying before, this would be excellent. So it’s just a limitation of what we had before.

[Cheezits]

Also something I don't understand: the Dracthyr racial lets them do Dragonflying in the old world, with momentum boosts and everything.

So... why can't other races use basic Dragonflying on their (new) dragon mounts in the old world?

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Removing something and then giving it back to us in a limited version with restrictions isn’t a game design choice that should be cherished.

Flying at launch hasn't been a thing for a long time now, and old flying will be available later. Getting ANY flying at launch is "giving" something.

[Makorus]

Mage talents look like the absolute worst choices. So much good stuff to pick from legion/bfa, but they chose some of the least used legos/sets or mega nerfed conduits which are useless without their extra ranks.

No Prismatic Crystal

Why? That was like the best talent mages ever had.

[Arcinatoss]

Ayo, timewarped lich king loot? https://www.wowhead.com/item=171566/...7756:1664:6646

[Xilurm]

Holy shit, I think I just saw the best thing about this expansion.

It's at the timestamp.


Public transportation! THIS IS IT. THIS IS WHAT I WANT. MORE OF THIS! I NEED MORE!!!

You can finally go to Pandaria WITHOUT. USING. A. GODDAMN. PORTAL!!

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Removing something and then giving it back to us in a limited version with restrictions isn’t a game design choice that should be cherished.

If we wouldn’t have had flying before, this would be excellent. So it’s just a limitation of what we had before.

They really should've just not started this problem and instead just let people fly whatever they wanted. It is clear Dragonriding should be able to outpace normal flying anyways.

[Donovan4893]

Well I guess it looks like Dracthyr will show no transmogged armor in dragon form, disappointing but I expected it.

They are showing Belts and Shoulders currently it looks like https://imgur.com/a/p1EIOcT

[Wonderment2]

Looks like infinite Dragonflight in Uldaman

[Xofoo]

Holy shit, I think I just saw the best thing about this expansion.

It's at the timestamp.

What timestamp?

[Nyel]

They really should've just not started this problem and instead just let people fly whatever they wanted. It is clear Dragonriding should be able to outpace normal flying anyways.

It is. And I like the idea and approach of this. My problem with the system is how it’s adapted 15 years after we got the usual flying. And again, that it’s a carbon copy of GW2 flying doesn’t make this better.

It worked super good in GW2 because flying didn’t exist before and they introduced this and it was GREAT. In WoW it’s just too late to introduce stuff like this when people are already used to it.

[Cheezits]

What timestamp?

7:40

Tuskarr Turtle boats are back and there is one that travels to the coast (doesn't stop) of every Azeroth continent.

[therumblings]

They are showing Belts and Shoulders currently it looks like https://imgur.com/a/p1EIOcT

Oh thats a relief, thanks for finding that image!

[Xofoo]

7:40

Tuskarr Turtle boats are back and there is one that travels to the coast (doesn't stop) of every Azeroth continent.

Thank you!

[Sondrelk]

Removing something and then giving it back to us in a limited version with restrictions isn’t a game design choice that should be cherished.

If we wouldn’t have had flying before, this would be excellent. So it’s just a limitation of what we had before.

Neither is giving players an objectively broken mechanic and then refusing to accept that players shouldn't have been allowed to have it.

Old flying is the worst mechanic the game has to offer, and the only reason we have to accept it is because some players don't want to actually play the game.