Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[rhorle]

How would it get there since Chromatus was...well not there at somepoint and the Dragon Isles were unavailable until now.

Or that he wasn't even created when the Forbidden Reach "had something underneath it". It could be another chromatic or "prismatic" experiment for sure. I don't see Blizzard doing large retcons just for name recongition of a bad guy but they've done stranger things so who knows.

[Feali]

Btw I am so hoping those Primal animal forms end up druid forms. That Primal Cat is awesome.

Just makes me want Claws of Shirvallah back.

The concept art had wings, its just they were separate from the body to show off both.



Anyway there's several models on the front page right now that correspond with the concept art.

This just looks like Glaurung from the Tolkienverse had Eevee style evolutions.

[Kiria]

So much hype, im ready for DF and my Drakthyr!

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Me thinks its a "How dare you chose the Titans over the power of the ELEMENTS, USURPERS!"

(Not trying to simplify it in a negative way but that might be a vibe we get). And when there's elementals...

[Kiria]

I wonder when WoWhead will have the Drakthyr in the dressing room so I can play with the customisation options :3

[Nymrohd]

Me thinks its a "How dare you chose the Titans over the power of the ELEMENTS, USURPERS!"

(Not trying to simplify it in a negative way but that might be a vibe we get). And when there's elementals...

See, Elementals predate the void. Actually Elementals predate EVERYTHING on Azeroth. It's very much possible that Elemental is the natural state of the material plane (the place between the six forces).

[Atticon]

I hope my DK gets an appropriate undeath-themed dragon cosmetic option. I would settle with having the Legion class mount being retroactively given the rigging and animations for dragon riding though.


Galakrond maybe being a thing gives me hope.

[Nymrohd]

So one of my favourite things in each new xpac is all the trade goods

And Dragonflight as expected with professions is bring a truly wide variety. Plus we are getting elemental materials again!

Also the gems are named after the aspects only . .. for some reason the Blue one is named Kalecite instead of I don't know, Malycite?

[Cheezits]

See, Elementals predate the void. Actually Elementals predate EVERYTHING on Azeroth. It's very much possible that Elemental is the natural state of the material plane (the place between the six forces).

Considering the Rock Furbolg and a quest where a bad shaman says that is their natural form, I think we are building to a reveal that the Elements are the source point for all of Life. Maybe the Zereth of Lifelands pumps out the elements first and foremost.

The dragons come from elements, and are empowered by the titans through the moon, so there may be an Elune connection that doubles that Life theme.

Remember how the centaurs were born by Cenarius kid banging a rock lady? Maybe that's not so weird after all.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Considering the Rock Furbolg and a quest where a bad shaman says that is their natural form, I think we are building to a reveal that the Elements are the source point for all of Life. Maybe the Zereth of Lifelands pumps out the elements first and foremost.

The dragons come from elements, and are empowered by the titans through the moon, so there may be an Elune connection that doubles that Life theme.

Remember how the centaurs were born by Cenarius kid banging a rock lady? Maybe that's not so weird after all.

Better origin then the curse of flesh nonsense.

[Feali]

So one of my favourite things in each new xpac is all the trade goods

And Dragonflight as expected with professions is bring a truly wide variety. Plus we are getting elemental materials again!

Also the gems are named after the aspects only . .. for some reason the Blue one is named Kalecite instead of I don't know, Malycite?

Probably because Kalecgos is the new leader of the Blue Flight after Malygos died so they decided to change the name of their gems.

[Atticon]

Considering the Rock Furbolg and a quest where a bad shaman says that is their natural form, I think we are building to a reveal that the Elements are the source point for all of Life. Maybe the Zereth of Lifelands pumps out the elements first and foremost.

The dragons come from elements, and are empowered by the titans through the moon, so there may be an Elune connection that doubles that Life theme.

Remember how the centaurs were born by Cenarius kid banging a rock lady? Maybe that's not so weird after all.

Isn't that already canonical though, with Spirit and Decay being part of it along with Earth, Fire, Water and Air?

[Nymrohd]

Probably because Kalecgos is the new leader of the Blue Flight after Malygos died so they decided to change the name of their gems.

That sounds crazy to me.

[Cheezits]

Isn't that already canonical though, with Spirit and Decay being part of it along with Earth, Fire, Water and Air?

It's implied through the Cosmology chart but I don't think anything has concretely said "Elements come from the plane of Life". As in the same place the Dream comes from.

[enigma77]

It's implied through the Cosmology chart but I don't think anything has concretely said "Elements come from the plane of Life". As in the same place the Dream comes from.

Where else would they come from? Planets have a fiery core, lots of earth, water and an atmosphere, so air.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It's implied through the Cosmology chart but I don't think anything has concretely said "Elements come from the plane of Life". As in the same place the Dream comes from.

Chronicles tells us the elementals are one of the first forms of life in the universe and that organic life that isn’t made by the titans is from the 5th element spirit turning elementals to flesh, so while not quite “from the plane of life” it’s all been rather explicit since chronicles.

[rhorle]

Considering the Rock Furbolg and a quest where a bad shaman says that is their natural form, I think we are building to a reveal that the Elements are the source point for all of Life. Maybe the Zereth of Lifelands pumps out the elements first and foremost.

That doesn't really fit the lore of Elementals. As when they died they would eventually materialize back on Azeroth. If the Lifelands is their source then wouldn't they go back there? The Titans created the elemental prison to keep the elementals contained because they were unkillable. Interestingly that regen capability seems to have been severed with the prison since Ragnaros is dead and Blizzard it is implied that he isn't just "regenerating".

Also the origin of Centaur have never been stated. Do you have a source for the rock lady? There was a Nigh elven "rumor" that they are bastard children of Cenarius but that was never a official source of their origin. The RPG had them as children Cenarius gave birth to but that is no longer canon. Or are you just mixing "head canon" in at will?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

That doesn't really fit the lore of Elementals. As when they died they would eventually materialize back on Azeroth. If the Lifelands is their source then wouldn't they go back there? The Titans created the elemental prison to keep the elementals contained because they were unkillable. Interestingly that regen capability seems to have been severed with the prison since Ragnaros is dead and Blizzard it is implied that he isn't just "regenerating".

Also the origin of Centaur have never been stated. Do you have a source for the rock lady? There was a Nigh elven "rumor" that they are bastard children of Cenarius but that was never a official source of their origin. The RPG had them as children Cenarius gave birth to but that is no longer canon. Or are you just mixing "head canon" in at will?

The plane of life could just be the great dark as we already have the elements stay in the great dark when they die and sprit which causes all life is an element as well.

[rhorle]

Chronicles tells us the elementals are one of the first forms of life in the universe and that organic life that isn’t made by the titans is from the 5th element spirit turning elementals to flesh, so while not quite “from the plane of life” it’s all been rather explicit since chronicles.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Elemental_spirit

It doesn't say anything that spirit turns elementals to flesh. Only that spirit determines how aggressive or peaceful elemental spirits are. To little and they turn aggresive. To much and they turn peaceful.

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The plane of life could just be the great dark as we already have the elements stay in the great dark when they die and sprit which causes all life is an element as well.

The Great Dark is "outer space". If it is the plane of life then we are already in the Lifelands, right?

[Cheezits]

That doesn't really fit the lore of Elementals. As when they died they would eventually materialize back on Azeroth. If the Lifelands is their source then wouldn't they go back there? The Titans created the elemental prison to keep the elementals contained because they were unkillable. Interestingly that regen capability seems to have been severed with the prison since Ragnaros is dead and Blizzard it is implied that he isn't just "regenerating".

Also the origin of Centaur have never been stated. Do you have a source for the rock lady? There was a Nigh elven "rumor" that they are bastard children of Cenarius but that was never a official source of their origin. The RPG had them as children Cenarius gave birth to but that is no longer canon. Or are you just mixing "head canon" in at will?

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The...te-Chronicle-3

As per Chronicle 1, the centaurs are the children of Zaetar and Theradras. Unless the book implies it isn't true, but I thought this was established lore.

Also if Elementals truly do respawn on Azeroth then it may lend to that idea that Reality/Great Dark is the Lifelands. I have always thought it was the Plane of Order though.