Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[rhorle]

No no they totally are which is why a titan keeper just ripped one out and killed it

A Titan Keeper did not rip any Old God out.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

No no they totally are which is why a titan keeper just ripped one out and killed it

A titan Keeper DID NOT rip an old god out. That was Aman'thul an actual titan. Titan Keeper are beings like Freya,Thorim,Loken, Odyn.

[Revamp Man]

I can't wait to see galakrond return as an actual threat
By the end of the first raid we should have an idea who the expansion end boss will be and I can only assume right now with no extra context that it will be him via infinite stuff.

We are getting a new island expedition style system in a patch and the creation Catalyst system might be sticking around

This is literally a "if fans ran wow" expansion

[rhorle]

Chronicle's actually does directly state enough spirit calms the elements and then that the calmed elements turn to flesh even if it doesn't directly say spirit turned them to flesh.

Again, no. Re-read the source you provided in this very thread. It states nothing about spirit causing the elementals to turn "organic". It just says over time they turned less aggressive and became "organic". Again at no point is spirit mentioned as the cause of them becoming organic. That is something you've inserted yourself based on "less aggressive" being used.

If it supports your idea then it also supports my ideas. Because it is vague on what caused an elemental to turn "organic". Strange right? That something being vague is only vague when it doesn't support your claim.

Lol, No.

You stated that Elune was the same level as a Titan. So Eternal Ones, Keepers, and Old Gods need to be the same level as Titans since Elune is the same level as a Eternal One. The Titans may also be below the First Ones. The problem with the lore is that Blizzard has indicated it is heavily biased towards the Titans and paints only their viewpoint of things. They've expanded it beyond just that and the Titans could actually be creations of the First Ones as well. Azeroth could even be a First One rather then a Titan which explains why every cosmic force is interested in "owning" her.

[Revamp Man]

A titan Keeper DID NOT rip an old god out. That was Aman'thul an actual titan. Titan Keeper are beings like Freya,Thorim,Loken, Odyn.

Yeah got my wires a tad crossed

[Worldshaper]

LivingWorld mystery solved?

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...39736752689152

[Aeluron Lightsong]

LivingWorld mystery solved?

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...39736752689152

If we don't get more updates on Living World, then this is......well very deflating lol. Just goes show how out of context datamining can be.

[TS26]

Primal Incarnates are supposed to be at the power level of pre-Dragon Soul nerf Aspects. So VERY strong.

I think Murozond makes a better final villain. The difference with Galakrond is that Murozond allows for far more outcomes that lead in to the next xpac. Galakrond is just a massive zombie dragon.

the issue with murozond is that he won't really die if he's the final villain since we kill him in end times

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Again, no. Re-read the source you provided in this very thread. It states nothing about spirit causing the elementals to turn "organic". It just says over time they turned less aggressive and became "organic".

so my view.

Step one, enough Spirit calms the elements. Step two, the titans stop the Spirit from getting eaten by azeroth. Step three, the elements are calmed. Step four the elements being calmed turns them to flesh.

and then your view.

Step one, it could be something else you don't know that it's not. Step two, list abunch of stuff with no backing any where in chronicles.

So no my idea doesn't support yours as well, as nothing you actually listed has any basis any where in chronicles where my idea is all backed up directly by chronicles even if not directly linked together.

You stated that Elune was the same level as a Titan.

actually no, I said that the old gods/naaru are not part of the pantheon of void/light unlike elune and the titans being part of the pantheon of life/order. You then turned that to them being on the same level even though all I said was that Elune and the titans are pantheon members while the old goids/naaru are not.

you are willing missing the point about the pantheons because you don't want to admit to being wrong.

[Nymrohd]

the issue with murozond is that he won't really die if he's the final villain since we kill him in end times

Imo the only way to kill Murozond is to remove him from the timeline? That's what works with 4D being, you don't kill them, you remove them.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Imo the only way to kill Murozond is to remove him from the timeline? That's what works with 4D being, you don't kill them, you remove them.

*Reverse flash Snicker*


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[Worldshaper]

If we don't get more updates on Living World, then this is......well very deflating lol. Just goes show how out of context datamining can be.

I'm fine with it, though. I love these types of features. Alone it might not amount to much, but when a zone is filled with little immersive things like this it all comes together very nicely.

That said, I do hope we get some new world content features down the line.

[Revamp Man]

Imo the only way to kill Murozond is to remove him from the timeline? That's what works with 4D being, you don't kill them, you remove them.

Eh if we fight him he'll just jump to the old dungeon and die in cata. He's essentially just the Doctor but evil so we just fight him but won't kill him because we already know his death

[Nymrohd]

*Reverse flash Snicker*


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I mean grab Soridormi, maybe Chromie, get the Eye of Aman'thul and remove Nozdormu from the timeline into a pocket plane out of time. No Nozdormu, no Murozond.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

LivingWorld mystery solved?

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...39736752689152

Man remember when we thought this was like.... "Lifelands Confirmed?"

Goes to show speculation season really doesn't matter. It was just butterflies.

[Lahis]

Aw, maybe soon.

Music always comes at the very end of beta.

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Unless the Wowhead datamining nameis just something they made up, it looks like the crab-like creatures that look like Mantid ARE actually "Primal Mantid".

Also I think one of the Primals is a dungeon boss. So they won't all be raid bosses like the storm one.

LOTS of Stone Sethrak variants. Maybe they are getting origin lore this expansion? Which is odd, as Sethraliss is a wild god.

The files don't have identifiable filenames anymore (basically just number IDs) , so that is WoW head's asspull.

[Wangming]

This is literally a "if fans ran wow" expansion

The problem is, the fans are a diverse bunch. If I ran WoW the entire expansion would be underwater and aim to make up for the underwhelming Nazjatar in BfA.

[Revamp Man]

The problem is, the fans are a diverse bunch. If I ran WoW the entire expansion would be underwater and aim to make up for the underwhelming Nazjatar in BfA.

Well 10.1 has an underground map

[Cheezits]

Well 10.1 has an underground map

An underground map that they tried to make sure nobody spoiled, that got spoiled anyway.

I wonder if the theme is going to be one element per zone? Because launch has lava mounts and the next patch is underground, probably beneath Forbidden Reach.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

The problem is, the fans are a diverse bunch. If I ran WoW the entire expansion would be underwater and aim to make up for the underwhelming Nazjatar in BfA.

And just to prove Wan's point, I'd make a naga expansion more about the above-water content. A proper South Seas expansion, with boats. Actual boats. Not just fake boats that sit in Boralus all day.