Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

Someone over on the Scrolls of Lore discord did some minor photoshop work.

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It really is a matter of just giving a larger head.

I still think that model looks absolutely terrible, but that's indeed subjective.

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They are looking into smaller, more frequent patches in Dragonflight.

This is good news imho. It cannot be stressed enough how good Legion worked due to this. I just hope they don't make the actual content patches smaller, but spread their content evenly.

[Xilurm]

So, Nesingwary is now retired.
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...al/1068019.jpg

But still works for the expedition.

Bit more info.

Nesingwary's wagon does stop at several Flight Point spots across the zone, with each point giving one (or multiple) Nesingwary hunting quests. Only this time, he's not hunting for sport, but hunting creatures that are being nuisances to the zone or that otherwise need to be put down, such as a gnoll torturing wild animals, a mammoth so old and in pain he's blindly crashing around, or an ice giant mutilating the fauna of the zone.

Once stopping on a location, Nesingwary offers its specific quest stays there for around 7 minutes before moving on to the next one. He does the most stops in Camp Antonidas, as the camp is located in the center of the Azure Span. Because of the way Nesingwary does his patrol, the best spot to wait for him is by Camp Antonidas.
Nesingwary moves from Camp Antonidas to Camp Nowhere, then heads back to Camp Antonidas.
He then moves to Iskaara, and once again back to Camp Antonidas.
On the last leg of his patrol, Nesingary goes to Rhonin's Shield, later stopping at Theron's Watch, then returns to Camp Antonidas.

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That's really neat. Not many moving NPC's that move around the zone like that and give quests. I wonder if you can sit on his cart and travel with him.

[Veluren]

Hemet Nessingwary turning from a Big Game Hunter into a Conservation Hunter/Game Warden wasn't the character development I expected for him. Though I suppose I wasn't expecting any at all for him so that's not hard.

[Revamp Man]

Hemet Nessingwary turning from a Big Game Hunter into a Conservation Hunter/Game Warden wasn't the character development I expected for him. Though I suppose I wasn't expecting any at all for him so that's not hard.

he went from a murder hobo to a level 20 beast master ranger

[Nymrohd]

Hemet Nessingwary turning from a Big Game Hunter into a Conservation Hunter/Game Warden wasn't the character development I expected for him. Though I suppose I wasn't expecting any at all for him so that's not hard.

I mean if you examine the trope Nessingwary evoked, it was obviously problematic. The way it was handled with DEHTA in Wrath probably made it even worse. The best way to advance the concept is to change it. Hemet is not important enough to the story that changing him becomes problematic after all.

[Wangming]

I mean if you examine the trope Nessingwary evoked, it was obviously problematic. The way it was handled with DEHTA in Wrath probably made it even worse. The best way to advance the concept is to change it. Hemet is not important enough to the story that changing him becomes problematic after all.

Yes. Even without the whole controversy around blizzard, Nessingwary big eff you to nature. Something had to be done. Either this or having him being mauled to death by tiger.

Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.

[Nyel]

Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.

Yeah I'm sure someone committing suicide due to depression is less controversial than a hunter killing animals in a video game.

[Nymrohd]

Yes. Even without the whole controversy around blizzard, Nessingwary big eff you to nature. Something had to be done. Either this or having him being mauled to death by tiger.

Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.

Maybe his wife could shoot him during a safari.

[Biruteka]

Yes. Even without the whole controversy around blizzard, Nessingwary big eff you to nature. Something had to be done. Either this or having him being mauled to death by tiger.

Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.

You need to see a psychiatrist urgently

[Xilurm]

I mean if you examine the trope Nessingwary evoked, it was obviously problematic. The way it was handled with DEHTA in Wrath probably made it even worse. The best way to advance the concept is to change it. Hemet is not important enough to the story that changing him becomes problematic after all.

How? They were made to make fun of PETA for being so extreme. It was satire if anything.

[Skildar]

You need to see a psychiatrist urgently

Why? suicide is a real issue, why not address it in the game?

[Nymrohd]

How? They were made to make fun of PETA for being so extreme. It was satire if anything.

And in no way dealt with the fact that Hemet's trophy hunting is also very problematic. Journey to new lands, kill everything that cannot talk in massive numbers, mount their heads on your mantle is not a great message.

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Why? suicide is a real issue, why not address it in the game?

Judging by how they addressed anything else in game, it would be the most patronizing shit ever. Let's not. Leave that to writers competent at social issues.

[Xilurm]

And in no way dealt with the fact that Hemet's trophy hunting is also very problematic. Journey to new lands, kill everything that cannot talk in massive numbers, mount their heads on your mantle is not a great message.

Idk, they kept bringing him back year after year. Probably felt like it wasn't that bad.

[huth]

Yes. Even without the whole controversy around blizzard, Nessingwary big eff you to nature. Something had to be done. Either this or having him being mauled to death by tiger.

Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.

I don't think suicide is a good direction either way.

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Why? suicide is a real issue, why not address it in the game?

That's exactly why. Go take a look at the guidelines for reporting on suicides. Something reporters and journalists should do, as well, as they clearly haven't.

[Nyel]

And in no way dealt with the fact that Hemet's trophy hunting is also very problematic. Journey to new lands, kill everything that cannot talk in massive numbers, mount their heads on your mantle is not a great message.

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Judging by how they addressed anything else in game, it would be the most patronizing shit ever. Let's not. Leave that to writers competent at social issues.

Ooooof, this is such a nonsense take for video games honestly. There are entire games dedicated to hunting, Red Dead Redemption 2 has a feature like that, restricting or condemning something like this in a video game is really pointless. Video games display reality (more or less), the good and the bad. They don't need to be political correct or transport a message let alone be a moral compass. There is nothing problematic with Nessingwary and his hunting. It's the point of his entire existence.

[Lady Atia]

Ooooof, this is such a nonsense take for video games honestly. There are entire games dedicated to hunting, Red Dead Redemption 2 has a feature like that, restricting or condemning something like this in a video game is really pointless. Video games display reality (more or less), the good and the bad. They don't need to be political correct or transport a message let alone be a moral compass. There is nothing problematic with Nessingwary and his hunting. It's the point of his entire existence.

Ehm, yes there was a problem with it. If you can't see it you are part of the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole "hunting animals for fun" part came from Afrasiabi himself.

Good riddance. I don't want the glorification of mounting rare animals on a spike for fun in WoW. (and for thouse who liked it, the old quests are still in the game. Atleast they actually made a positive message instead of deleting the old content like they did with other problematic stuff)

[Feali]

Monk with the gold color instead of white

Monk with anything but the bulky as fuck human male model would be nice. So it fits the concept art better.

[Nymrohd]

Ooooof, this is such a nonsense take for video games honestly. There are entire games dedicated to hunting, Red Dead Redemption 2 has a feature like that, restricting or condemning something like this in a video game is really pointless. Video games display reality (more or less), the good and the bad. They don't need to be political correct or transport a message let alone be a moral compass. There is nothing problematic with Nessingwary and his hunting. It's the point of his entire existence.

I think it's different in Red Dead Redemption where you very much hunt to survive and eat and what Hemet does which is hunt entirely for the pleasure of killing and collecting trophies. At no point is the concern survival.

[Feali]

Only warriors should get execute mechanics

Don't take away my Touch of Death.

[Xilurm]

Ehm, yes there was a problem with it. If you can't see it you are part of the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole "hunting animals for fun" part came from Afrasiabi himself.

Good riddance. I don't want the glorification of mounting rare animals on a spike for fun in WoW. (and for thouse who liked it, the old quests are still in the game. Atleast they actually made a positive message instead of deleting the old content like they did with other problematic stuff)

No there wasn't a problem with it. Unless you're a psychopath and you go and do this irl.

Do you think GTA games are problematic as well?