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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    I’ve seen people say things like the old models had matted hair or spots of blood and dirt of them which is no where to be seen on the actual models, so I think it’s mostly from people adding there imagination to vague memory’s of the old models and constructing a image that never existed.
    Thats the thing. With low poly models a few spots can be a wound, spots, a harness, whatever. Ppl imagine what they think is cool. So many problems and complaints come with expanded and clarified lore.

    Its the same with npc impressions. If a character exiats for one quest and have 10 lines of dialogue its easy for ppl to think thry are cool. The more spotlight u give them EVERY second of screen time is a chance to alienate some fans. Look at how ppl react to thrall. He basically is one of the main characters who is a good person whos made 1 or 2 reasonable mistakes while having the world on his shoulders since he was 16 yrs old. More spotlight means more hate.

    Someone was saying the new alextrasza model was missing something and after looking and seeing how its basically juat a hi rez update i had to assume it was some sort of percieved attitude based on the low polygon face

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean when I think of gnolls I think of this
    I mean thats a diseased battlescared gnoll. Also like have u seen warcraft orcs vs lotr ones. Or warcraft kobalds vs dnd kobalds, or warcraft wyverns vs any wyvern
    Romance doesnt detract from a story. Its a Genre, like horror or comedy or adventure. The game was ruined when we got Horror in drustvar or nazmir. It wasnt ruined when we had funny quests. So if you think a little man on man love ruins the game, then yes you are either a homophobe or just a spoil sport that goes "ewww kissing is yucky" like a baby. Furthermore, if a character has never expressed interest in any gender, then its not proof they are straight. straight people are not the default

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plehnard View Post
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    I would kill to have my character look like the one in blue.



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    woot this week we get evoker starter zone and im hoping more class talent trees

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    So, Nesingwary is now retired.


    But still works for the expedition.
    You didn't think retirement would keep me out of the game, did you?

    My eyes aren't what they used to be, and my hands are certainly less steady... but they can hold these reins!

    This whole Dragonscale Expedition is quite the operation, and I've a mind to do my part!

    As for the Azure Span, well... It reminds me of some of the best places I've explored!

    > So you're not here to hunt?

    I've bagged enough trophies to last me ten lifetimes! Take Tiny and Junior here... Sure, I could put their heads on a wall as easy as pulling a pint of Dun Morogh stout, but it'd make my job as a wagon driver significantly harder!

    <Nesingwary laughs.>

    I suppose that makes me something of a conservationist!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    So, Nesingwary is now retired.


    But still works for the expedition.
    Great change! I never liked the way the Nesingwary quests glorified the hunting of animals for fun. Yes, yes, fantasy world and so, but there is a difference between hunting for survival and hunting for trophies ...

    We don't really need the later in the game imo.

  6. #63866
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I mean, there are a lot of spells that are significantly weaker in ST compared to AOE.
    I'll try to explain it again, maybe it's clearer then:

    All Empower skills right now clearly benefit scenarios where there is more than one target. They do not gain any benefits from empowering in single target fights (we're not talking about passive traits, only about the empower skill itself).

    Don't you think this is an inherent problem or an oversight? Empower should make skills always better, in single target and AoE fights. But right now empowering them only benefits them in multitarget fights. I mean there is an easy fix for this: instead of adding additional targets by empower you just make the skill stronger, evenly split between the amount of targets. So single target would always benefit and even in multi target fights the skill would get stronger.

    Right now - for both healing and DPS - your single target empower skill turns into an AoE skill when empowered - this should not be the case because there already exist AoE empower skills for exactly that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    tbh, I like the mastery.

    There are enough execute mechanics in the game already anyway, so it's nice to have a reverse-execute. Plus, there's the fact that there's a lot of abilities that make it do full damage anyway.
    I think Evoker mastery will be like Holy Paladin mastery. Very middle of the road in actual fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    It's still there:

    This model is so sick. Drust Gnoll.
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  7. #63867
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I would kill to have my character look like the one in blue.
    Yeah, that's my favourite as well, closely followed by the black one but all four are way better than what we got at the end.

  8. #63868
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferlion View Post
    Someone over on the Scrolls of Lore discord did some minor photoshop work.

    Before


    After


    It really is a matter of just giving a larger head.
    I still think that model looks absolutely terrible, but that's indeed subjective.

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    They are looking into smaller, more frequent patches in Dragonflight.

    This is good news imho. It cannot be stressed enough how good Legion worked due to this. I just hope they don't make the actual content patches smaller, but spread their content evenly.
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  9. #63869
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    So, Nesingwary is now retired.
    https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...al/1068019.jpg

    But still works for the expedition.
    Bit more info.

    Nesingwary's wagon does stop at several Flight Point spots across the zone, with each point giving one (or multiple) Nesingwary hunting quests. Only this time, he's not hunting for sport, but hunting creatures that are being nuisances to the zone or that otherwise need to be put down, such as a gnoll torturing wild animals, a mammoth so old and in pain he's blindly crashing around, or an ice giant mutilating the fauna of the zone.

    Once stopping on a location, Nesingwary offers its specific quest stays there for around 7 minutes before moving on to the next one. He does the most stops in Camp Antonidas, as the camp is located in the center of the Azure Span. Because of the way Nesingwary does his patrol, the best spot to wait for him is by Camp Antonidas.
    Nesingwary moves from Camp Antonidas to Camp Nowhere, then heads back to Camp Antonidas.
    He then moves to Iskaara, and once again back to Camp Antonidas.
    On the last leg of his patrol, Nesingary goes to Rhonin's Shield, later stopping at Theron's Watch, then returns to Camp Antonidas.
    Spoiler: 


    That's really neat. Not many moving NPC's that move around the zone like that and give quests. I wonder if you can sit on his cart and travel with him.

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    Hemet Nessingwary turning from a Big Game Hunter into a Conservation Hunter/Game Warden wasn't the character development I expected for him. Though I suppose I wasn't expecting any at all for him so that's not hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veluren View Post
    Hemet Nessingwary turning from a Big Game Hunter into a Conservation Hunter/Game Warden wasn't the character development I expected for him. Though I suppose I wasn't expecting any at all for him so that's not hard.
    he went from a murder hobo to a level 20 beast master ranger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veluren View Post
    Hemet Nessingwary turning from a Big Game Hunter into a Conservation Hunter/Game Warden wasn't the character development I expected for him. Though I suppose I wasn't expecting any at all for him so that's not hard.
    I mean if you examine the trope Nessingwary evoked, it was obviously problematic. The way it was handled with DEHTA in Wrath probably made it even worse. The best way to advance the concept is to change it. Hemet is not important enough to the story that changing him becomes problematic after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean if you examine the trope Nessingwary evoked, it was obviously problematic. The way it was handled with DEHTA in Wrath probably made it even worse. The best way to advance the concept is to change it. Hemet is not important enough to the story that changing him becomes problematic after all.
    Yes. Even without the whole controversy around blizzard, Nessingwary big eff you to nature. Something had to be done. Either this or having him being mauled to death by tiger.

    Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.
    Yeah I'm sure someone committing suicide due to depression is less controversial than a hunter killing animals in a video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Yes. Even without the whole controversy around blizzard, Nessingwary big eff you to nature. Something had to be done. Either this or having him being mauled to death by tiger.

    Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.
    Maybe his wife could shoot him during a safari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Yes. Even without the whole controversy around blizzard, Nessingwary big eff you to nature. Something had to be done. Either this or having him being mauled to death by tiger.

    Or since he is clearly named after Ernest Hemingway, he could have developed depression and killed himself with his own gun. But that's not a plotline I would trust Danuser with.
    You need to see a psychiatrist urgently

  17. #63877
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean if you examine the trope Nessingwary evoked, it was obviously problematic. The way it was handled with DEHTA in Wrath probably made it even worse. The best way to advance the concept is to change it. Hemet is not important enough to the story that changing him becomes problematic after all.
    How? They were made to make fun of PETA for being so extreme. It was satire if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biruteka View Post
    You need to see a psychiatrist urgently
    Why? suicide is a real issue, why not address it in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    How? They were made to make fun of PETA for being so extreme. It was satire if anything.
    And in no way dealt with the fact that Hemet's trophy hunting is also very problematic. Journey to new lands, kill everything that cannot talk in massive numbers, mount their heads on your mantle is not a great message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skildar View Post
    Why? suicide is a real issue, why not address it in the game?
    Judging by how they addressed anything else in game, it would be the most patronizing shit ever. Let's not. Leave that to writers competent at social issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    And in no way dealt with the fact that Hemet's trophy hunting is also very problematic. Journey to new lands, kill everything that cannot talk in massive numbers, mount their heads on your mantle is not a great message.
    Idk, they kept bringing him back year after year. Probably felt like it wasn't that bad.

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