Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[tristannarutofan]

Yeah I know, but it would be missed opportunity to not give us these skins as mounts. Raszageth f.e. could drop a smaller version of herself on Mythic. Also I actually would prefer them to be seperate from the "classic" renewed proto drake mount.

It would be nice as we defeat certain enemies we can give their unique powers to our dragons , yes.

But regular dragons with infinite variety > weird dragon shaped elementals, imo

[Sondrelk]

It would be nice as we defeat certain enemies we can give their unique powers to our dragons , yes.

But regular dragons with infinite variety > weird dragon shaped elementals, imo

Earth primalist protodrake with the infinite Dragonflight monochromatic coloration. Now that would certainly be an appearance worthy several Mythic only mounts.

[MightyWarrior]

Instead of nerfing Soar, why don't they just allow dragonriding in old zones and then everyone is happy.

A solution to a nerf which I don't think anyone asked for ^

[Raetary]

Instead of nerfing Soar, why don't they just allow dragonriding in old zones and then everyone is happy.

A solution to a nerf which I don't think anyone asked for ^

Because they want to pretend that Dragonriding totally won't be expanded over the rest of Azeroth by 10.2.

[bruxx]

Instead of nerfing Soar, why don't they just allow dragonriding in old zones and then everyone is happy.

A solution to a nerf which I don't think anyone asked for ^

Alternatively, make soar work exactly like dragon riding, incl. no CD, Vigor and only in DI. For the best of both worlds, add a second soar that works exactly like epic flying mounts for the old world.

If I had to chose, I'd rather be able to fulfill my dragon fantasy in current content, rather than being forced to mount up just so I can have a bit of a bonus in older content that I'll rarely get to touch.

[Lahis]

Instead of nerfing Soar, why don't they just allow dragonriding in old zones and then everyone is happy.

A solution to a nerf which I don't think anyone asked for ^

Because they won't keep Dragonriding past Dragonflight, and Dracthyr having soar would make them unfair towards other races in 11.0.

[Niwes]

Yeah, to quote Ion:

If anything, you know with tons of new creatures and a huge new bestiary to encounter, you can rest assured that basically anything with four legs, two legs, or any number of legs, odds are that we're going to make it into a mount at some point, because we know that's what you want.

since Ion’s quote is leading to that expansions spitting in hundreds of obtainable mounts, it seems i am not one of that „you“ in „…what you want“.

i stopped my mount collectors career while WoD, because the sheer amaount of mounts they spitted into the game killed every fun for me.

[TriHard]

Because they won't keep Dragonriding past Dragonflight, and Dracthyr having soar would make them unfair towards other races in 11.0.

Druids have instant mount
Warlocks and Hunters have pets
Mages have portals


Unfair advantages, might as well remove those!

[Makabreska]

Because they won't keep Dragonriding past Dragonflight, and Dracthyr having soar would make them unfair towards other races in 11.0.

Please. It is almost guaranteed they will expand DR past DF.

[huth]

Druids have instant mount
Warlocks and Hunters have pets
Mages have portals


Unfair advantages, might as well remove those!

Those are Classes, not Races.

[klaps_05]

So much drama about dracthyr flight nerf. if the game conservatively has 2 mil subs or less, a few streamers communities amount to less than 100k in total. its more important that the game and design is per blizzards image, rather than catering to streamers.

Ppl forgetting the game isnt made for them specifically, blizzard has an overarching idea and its better they stick to its plan than to the whims of a few alpha ppl throwing a hissy fit.

[Lady Atia]

since Ion’s quote is leading to that expansions spitting in hundreds of obtainable mounts, it seems i am not one of that „you“ in „…what you want“.

i stopped my mount collectors career while WoD, because the sheer amaount of mounts they spitted into the game killed every fun for me.

I never get that take, sorry. More mounts are always good! I guess it depends on why you collect mounts - for the sake of collecting, or the sake of completionism?

[Therougetitan]

Please. It is almost guaranteed they will expand DR past DF.

Literally no one knows including the deva. Alpha feedback has been positive but they are limited and also only a few weeks. We don't know how the community at large instead of a small sample size will react or how people will feel about it a few months in if it feels old and people just want regular flying again. It may very well continue next expac but claiming it is guaranteed is arrogance.

[Sondrelk]

Those are Classes, not Races.

And at the moment the race and class is one and the same. The talent tree literally includes changes to the racials.

If soar is such a problem by the time Dracthyr can be other classes then just cross that bridge then, by that point they could probably even solve it by letting us Dragonriding anywhere.

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I never get that take, sorry. More mounts are always good! I guess it depends on why you collect mounts - for the sake of collecting, or the sake of completionism?

Variety is good, the number of mounts is just a number.
Unless the reason to want more mounts is to make the 500 mounts collected achievement even easier then I fail to see the point.
The Dragonriding mounts should give far more variety than individual mounts ever could as you can make the perfect mount, rather than just one that is okay.

[Raetary]

Literally no one knows including the deva. Alpha feedback has been positive but they are limited and also only a few weeks. We don't know how the community at large instead of a small sample size will react or how people will feel about it a few months in if it feels old and people just want regular flying again. It may very well continue next expac but claiming it is guaranteed is arrogance.

It's fun, it solves almost all the issues flying has, it turns flying into another content feature for Blizzard to milk.
Dragonriding is absolutely staying.

[Sondrelk]

So much drama about dracthyr flight nerf. if the game conservatively has 2 mil subs or less, a few streamers communities amount to less than 100k in total. its more important that the game and design is per blizzards image, rather than catering to streamers.

Ppl forgetting the game isnt made for them specifically, blizzard has an overarching idea and its better they stick to its plan than to the whims of a few alpha ppl throwing a hissy fit.

The issue is that the nerf is pointless. The argument that it gives an unfair advantage to pet battles and transmog holds basically no substance when stuff like the Druid dreamway portals, or DI Dwarf mole machines are a thing.

It would legitimately have been a better and more sound argument if they nerfed it solely because players were too excited to use it compared to other classes. As in it literally interfered with the Alpha because players were having too much fun.

[Niwes]

I never get that take, sorry. More mounts are always good! I guess it depends on why you collect mounts - for the sake of collecting, or the sake of completionism?

what’s the difference?

since you can’t ride 600 mounts at the same time, what is the difference between collecting and completionism ? don’t get it tbh.

[Lahis]

It's fun, it solves almost all the issues flying has, it turns flying into another content feature for Blizzard to milk.
Dragonriding is absolutely staying.

It can't stay because it will invalidate hundreds of mounts already in the game.

[Makabreska]

It can't stay because it will invalidate hundreds of mounts already in the game.

No, it won't. Worst case scenario - they will keep both DR and normal flying for those weird ones. And hundreds of mounts? We got hundreds of some odd, non winged creatures as flying mounts in-game? I don't think so. If the feature is good (and alpha reports show it is), then removing it would be an incomprehensible shot in the the foot by Blizz.

[Sondrelk]

It can't stay because it will invalidate hundreds of mounts already in the game.

Or they will make other mounts work with it as well. Absolutely no reason to make all older dragon mounts capable of dragonriding, or for that matter any old mount that uses the same skeleton.
Really at this point the only limiting factor are the unique animations.