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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyWarrior View Post
    After seeing warrior talents, think im more hyped for DF than any expansion. Legion 2nd.
    I want Ancient Aftershock back. Grumble grumble.

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    God the DF zones are so fucking vibrant and good looking!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    Yea, she looks way more like an updated Ysera rather than Merithra. Also, there's a bunch of Ysera NPC entries in the dragonflight database already, all of which are missing models meaning it's either encrypted or not added yet, including one that's literally called "Ysera Dragon Uprez" so I'm fairly certain that it is Ysera on the screen and that she is coming back early on in the leveling process. Important to keep in mind that in Shadowlands epilogue, Ysera said she'll soar the skies of Azeroth again if Elune wills it. If they wanted her to remain dead, they wouldn't have left it open ended like that.
    Following up on my post from earlier.

    This dagger from this wowhead post is called "Knife_1H_Ysera"

    and this off-hand is called "Offhand_1H_Ysera"


    If you compare the design of those weapons to the new model on the loading screen, it's a perfect match to her new armor, specifically the hair band and the hipguards. The person on the loading screen is without a doubt resurrected Ysera, not Merithra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyWarrior View Post
    After seeing warrior talents, think im more hyped for DF than any expansion. Legion 2nd.
    Are the warrior talents up? Wowhead doesn't have them yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    Following up on my post from earlier.

    This dagger from this wowhead post is called "Knife_1H_Ysera"

    and this off-hand is called "Offhand_1H_Ysera"


    If you compare the design of those weapons to the new model on the loading screen, it's a perfect match to her new armor, specifically the hair band and the hipguards. The person on the loading screen is without a doubt resurrected Ysera, not Merithra.
    Omg I was literally just making that observation myself and I come here and you've written exactly what I was gonna say! Hehe.
    Anyways, I'm happy. I love Ysera, so cool to have her back. Also, love the little animacone in her scepter from her time in ardenweald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    Omg I was literally just making that observation myself and I come here and you've written exactly what I was gonna say! Hehe.
    Anyways, I'm happy. I love Ysera, so cool to have her back. Also, love the little animacone in her scepter from her time in ardenweald.
    Haha, great timing! I generally don't like bringing characters back to life but I'm making an exception for Ysera because I feel like it makes sense for someone of her status + Elune's involvement, so I'm happy too. The little Ardenweald influence is great as is her new model as a whole to be honest, she deserves it after being stuck with that old shitty one for all of Shadowlands while everything else around her looked great and high res. Hopefully wowhead changes the info on their article cos right now it's causing a lot of misinformation to spread cos they wrote it's Merithra and everyone is blindly trusting them.
    Last edited by Adoxe; 2022-07-27 at 01:44 AM.

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    Fairly happy about what I've seen with Paladin. Plenty of utility in the class tree and when it comes to the prot tree I can tell I will need at least 5-6 different builds depending on content. At current numbers, Focused Enmity would mean my tankadin will outdps most of the less skilled dps in my group. But yeah, excited for the talent tree as Prot. Ret I am not so sure; hate that Final Reckoning, my favourite talent in SL, is behind Ashes to Ashes, my least favourite tier set.

    That Wrathion, Nozdormu, Kalecgos set in the loading screen makes me want to write decided NSFW fanfiction.

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    Damn, the new Arcane Mage cooldown sounds really fun.

    Really happy with the Mage Trees (no Prismatic Crystal though )

    Anyone got an invite yet from this wave (if there has been one?)?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Damn, the new Arcane Mage cooldown sounds really fun.

    Really happy with the Mage Trees (no Prismatic Crystal though )

    Anyone got an invite yet from this wave (if there has been one?)?)
    The spec-trees are mostly ok if rather unexciting.
    The base class tree is just a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggler View Post
    The spec-trees are mostly ok if rather unexciting.
    The base class tree is just a mess.
    The base class tree is shit, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    The base class tree is shit, I agree.
    I think one of the issues is, that you have to make choices, but none of those choices are actually fun. it's like going shopping for tools when you don't really care about them. Yes, they are useful but are you excited to actually have them? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggler View Post
    I think one of the issues is, that you have to make choices, but none of those choices are actually fun. it's like going shopping for tools when you don't really care about them. Yes, they are useful but are you excited to actually have them? No.
    I like the healing and more shields, speed and shields from blinking, and other such things!
    Romance doesnt detract from a story. Its a Genre, like horror or comedy or adventure. The game was ruined when we got Horror in drustvar or nazmir. It wasnt ruined when we had funny quests. So if you think a little man on man love ruins the game, then yes you are either a homophobe or just a spoil sport that goes "ewww kissing is yucky" like a baby. Furthermore, if a character has never expressed interest in any gender, then its not proof they are straight. straight people are not the default

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    Are people seriously asking for more throughput talents in the class tree??? I am happy that mage class tree is mostly utility.

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    Pretty poor choices for mage talents so far, hopefully a lot of it gets changed. worst legendary playstyles, SL conduits which are irrelevant at such low ranks. very little of the actual mage players wishlist on there.

    fire shows how little they play the game - giving mages back 1 min combustion, but not the powerups that made 1 min actually good. bfa 1 min bust build was good because you had multiple buffs every time, without them, its a wet noodle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post
    I like the healing and more shields, speed and shields from blinking, and other such things!
    Are people seriously asking for more throughput talents in the class tree??? I am happy that mage class tree is mostly utility.
    Not talking about throughput. I really like stuff like Mass Polymorph, Ice Floes being back for all specs and i personally always liked Tempest Shield.
    The problem lies mostly in pathing and the amount of multiple point nodes that just feel bad. Making some of the 3-point-nodes two pointes could already free some points up for fun talents, imho. I also wonder if they couldn't find a better fire capstone than meteor. Depends on balancing I guess, but compared to greater Invis and Shifting power I'd say that's a bit lackluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebron View Post
    Interesting that Blizzard would spoil that with the loading screen already though. - for that single reason you can know it's not Ysera
    Or we bring her back during the pre-patch, hence her being on the loading screen during launch wouldn't spoil anything. Besides that, the interesting part isn't that she is coming back (we already know that from the epilogue), but how and what sacrifice we have to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    There's a massive difference actually. Two of them. You have to pay more to learn more of the story, and it's in an entirely different type of media. Maybe if it was a short story for free on their website, that'd be cool. But no, it's not.

    Something like Chronicles is cool, because it's like an encyclopedia that goes deep into the lore of the world in general. But releasing a companion novel for each expansion that players who like the lore feel forced to buy because there's important details isn't nice. Of course people can get a PDF illegally through some means but that's not really nice is it?
    Again, nothing wrong with paying extra to get extra fluff for your hobby. No one complains that there are thousands of Warhammer books to enrichen the lore of GW's games either (which cost a loooot more than the small sub fee WoW has) because why would you complain about extra stuff ... oO. I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Or we bring her back during the pre-patch, hence her being on the loading screen during launch wouldn't spoil anything. Besides that, the interesting part isn't that she is coming back (we already know that from the epilogue), but how and what sacrifice we have to give.

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    Again, nothing wrong with paying extra to get extra fluff for your hobby. No one complains that there are thousands of Warhammer books to enrichen the lore of GW's games either (which cost a loooot more than the small sub fee WoW has) because why would you complain about extra stuff ... oO. I don't get it.
    Buying a book to understand the story of a game is not "extra fluff", it's the basic story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Buying a book to understand the story of a game is not "extra fluff", it's the basic story.
    When was the last time you actually had to buy a book to get an important plotpoint? War Crimes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Buying a book to understand the story of a game is not "extra fluff", it's the basic story.
    But they don't do books anymore than are "required to understand the story". The basic story is in the game.

    #TEAMGIRAFFE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Again, nothing wrong with paying extra to get extra fluff for your hobby. No one complains that there are thousands of Warhammer books to enrichen the lore of GW's games either (which cost a loooot more than the small sub fee WoW has) because why would you complain about extra stuff ... oO. I don't get it.
    It's alright to have extra stuff, when they are, you know... extra. Like world-building and fleshing out the already known story.

    When you already pay the price for a full game, plus a subscription, it's a dick move to hide crucial story elements in other, monetized, sources.

    Not everyone(only a portion of the players, actually) is invested in the story to an extent, where they will seek out-of-game sources, in order to be able to get the complete picture. Which leads to the story appearing as even bigger mess than it actually is, the most recent example being Shadowlands.
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