Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Makabreska]

Like the dk starting area was? Ow wait...

And what it has to do with anything? Just because a completely separated zone wasn't used 14y ago means it will happen again to a zone that is part of a new continent?

[therumblings]

Wasn't it already confirmed we're going back to the Forbidden Reach? I remember hearing that in an interview a few months ago though I could be wrong.

[Jekyll]

Dragonmaw got Blackrock like gray skin in Cataclysm with unique tattoos in Cataclysm, but that was replaced but regular Blackrock gray skin and glowing eyes in WoD model update when they didn't update the unique Dragonmaw NPC skins.

Dragonmaws have bluish grey skin, while Black Iron has a more Brown-Blackish Grey skin.

[draugril]

Dragonmaws have bluish grey skin, while Black Iron has a more Brown-Blackish Grey skin.

Yep. Dragonmaw still have unique skin tones and unique glowing eyes. They just lost the tattoos.

[Luck4]

Is Blizzard going to attend Gamescom this year?

I want to know the release date.

[micwini]

Is Blizzard going to attend Gamescom this year?

I want to know the release date.

I would imagine if scaleface is correct and the expac is due november. Release date announcement somewhere this month would not be unlikely.

[Lady Atia]

And what it has to do with anything? Just because a completely separated zone wasn't used 14y ago means it will happen again to a zone that is part of a new continent?

No worries, that guy seems to be stuck in the past and still thinks that current Blizzard (or NewBlizzard! as I call them :P) is working exactly the same way as they did during wotlk including scrapping content that's already finished or throwing away zones after their initial usage even though Steve Danuser already confirmed we will go back there. But maybe he thinks because the stuff isn't in the patch notes it's scrapped haha.

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Wasn't it already confirmed we're going back to the Forbidden Reach? I remember hearing that in an interview a few months ago though I could be wrong.

Yep, Steve already said as much in the T&E podcast interview thingy on twitter space. No clue why we are even discussing this tbh.



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I would imagine if scaleface is correct and the expac is due november. Release date announcement somewhere this month would not be unlikely.

I could see them revealing the release date once we get to Beta in 3 weeks? Basically revealing a roadmap like they had for Alpha with different phases for leveling stress testing, pvp, m+ and maybe raid testing aswell as a pre-patch and release date at the end?

[micwini]

No worries, that guy seems to be stuck in the past and still thinks that current Blizzard (or NewBlizzard! as I call them :P) is working exactly the same way as they did during wotlk including scrapping content that's already finished or throwing away zones after their initial usage even though Steve Danuser already confirmed we will go back there. But maybe he thinks because the stuff isn't in the patch notes it's scrapped haha.

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Yep, Steve already said as much in the T&E podcast interview thingy on twitter space. No clue why we are even discussing this tbh.



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I could see them revealing the release date once we get to Beta in 3 weeks? Basically revealing a roadmap like they had for Alpha with different phases for leveling stress testing, pvp, m+ and maybe raid testing aswell as a pre-patch and release date at the end?

Possibly. Although they didnt reveal a roadmap? For example, I don't know whats going to be tested next week and the week after. The only thing they said was that they would have a new build each week, but thats not really a roadmap.

[Lady Atia]

Possibly. Although they didnt reveal a roadmap? For example, I don't know whats going to be tested next week and the week after. The only thing they said was that they would have a new build each week, but thats not really a roadmap.

They posted one with the first build =)

Here is a breakdown for what players can initially expect to see in the first phase of Dragonflight alpha:

Phase 1 Zone Experience: The Azure Span
New Race and Class: Dracthyr Evoker
Dragonriding
New Interface HUD Revamp
Talent Revamps for Death Knight, Druid, Hunter, Priest, and Rogue
Professions: Alchemy and Blacksmithing
Full details on the following phases will be shared as we get closer to them, but here are the current plans for the zones:

Phase 2 Zone Experience: The Forbidden Reach
Phase 3 Zone Experiences: The Forbidden Reach and Waking Shores
Phase 4 Zone Experiences: The Forbidden Reach and Thaldraszus
Phase 5 Zone Experiences: The Forbidden Reach and Ohn’ahran Plain
Phase 6+ All zones are expected to be playable

[Lahis]

Is Blizzard going to attend Gamescom this year?

I want to know the release date.

Why would they?

[Lady Atia]

Every new build sends out more invites
The tank shortage is due to a couple issues
1. Not all tanks are in
2. We have players using dracthyr healers and not knowing how they work so people avoid tanking
B. Players have a GO GO GO!! mentality right now and some are leaving dungeons if they pull extra mobs or don't do a skip or die when they chain pull

For real? That sounds aweful lol. I'm wondering how Blizzard could aim to fight this behavior. Maybe removing the m+ timer or (which they won't do haha) banning of details? You can hate all you want againt Diablo Immortal, but it's actually refreshing to not have logs/dmg meters and people seem much chill there even though it's a hack and slay mmo lol (although fair enough, I only played a bit during release so that may have changed).

Anyways, atleast in a testing environment people should chill out - this isn't a demo ...

[Nymrohd]

Why would they?

I don't think they are going to be there. But after Legion set the precedent it makes sense for people to ask.

[Lahis]

I don't think they are going to be there. But after Legion set the precedent it makes sense for people to ask.

For Legion they announced whole expansion there. Right now all their big projects are already announced and even have release windows. They can easily wait for next Blizzcon before announcing anything new.

[Hitei]

Why would they?

If the new survival game is in a nice looking state and ~4 years or so out from release, they could announce it there.

[Gorsameth]

For real? That sounds aweful lol. I'm wondering how Blizzard could aim to fight this behavior. Maybe removing the m+ timer or (which they won't do haha) banning of details? You can hate all you want againt Diablo Immortal, but it's actually refreshing to not have logs/dmg meters and people seem much chill there even though it's a hack and slay mmo lol (although fair enough, I only played a bit during release so that may have changed).

Anyways, atleast in a testing environment people should chill out - this isn't a demo ...

Its the logical result of turning M+ into an e-sport.
'Normal' players see actual 'good' players do highly optimised and practised routes and want to be like them and repeat what they do without the coordinated and practiced group used during the MDI.

Whenever a game shows players how they 'should play' more casual players will try to emulate it and fail. No different from LoL where silver/gold players pretend they are playing on the Worlds stage.

[micwini]

They posted one with the first build =)

Ooh thank you. I missed this somehow.Although it doesnt contain which classes/profs, but it is better than nothing.

[Nymrohd]

Its the logical result of turning M+ into an e-sport.
'Normal' players see actual 'good' players do highly optimised and practised routes and want to be like them and repeat what they do without the coordinated and practiced group used during the MDI.

Whenever a game shows players how they 'should play' more casual players will try to emulate it and fail. No different from LoL where silver/gold players pretend they are playing on the Worlds stage.

Wait, people WATCH the MDI? Really?

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For Legion they announced whole expansion there. Right now all their big projects are already announced and even have release windows. They can easily wait for next Blizzcon before announcing anything new.

Blizzcon 2023 is a long way off tbh. D4 may well be out before Blizzcon. An exact release date will probably not come until after beta has launched. But they do have other properties they can present there.

[Dracullus]

If the new survival game is in a nice looking state and ~4 years or so out from release, they could announce it there.

Nah, most likely survival game and 11.0 will be main reveals for Blizzcon 23. They need strong set for return.

For gamescom I expect heavy Dragonflight promotion, release date (15th November?) included. Even more likely Beta start, event lines up with end of Phase 6 of Alpha.

[Lahis]

Wait, people WATCH the MDI? Really?

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Blizzcon 2023 is a long way off tbh. D4 may well be out before Blizzcon. An exact release date will probably not come until after beta has launched. But they do have other properties they can present there.

D4 is coming out close to Blizzcon. They don't really need any announced-but-not-coming-out-this-year games to fill between D4 release and Blizzcon. Makes more sense to dump massive number of post D4 announcements on on Blizzcon.

[Valysar]

Wasn't it already confirmed we're going back to the Forbidden Reach? I remember hearing that in an interview a few months ago though I could be wrong.

Yeah, it's an endgame zone