Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Lahis]

Comics have been soing the same thing for 70 years.

Which is why comic stories are trash.

[Nymrohd]

Wowhead is suggesting warlock is next.

[Makabreska]

New Hogger.

[Hitei]

I don't feel like it erodes its distinct class identity, I think in fact it expands it in an interesting way by having more choice bundled into one race.

You are trying to glyph the class into being a glorified demon hunter. Just regular people that have a dragon (read: demon) inside them and switch into a hybrid form for CDs. How is copying another classes' gimmick 1:1 not eroding class identity?

[Celement]

You are trying to glyph the class into being a glorified demon hunter. Just regular people that have a dragon (read: demon) inside them and switch into a hybrid form for CDs. How is copying another classes' gimmick 1:1 not eroding class identity?

You are either way. It isnt a unique idea being locked to a form in combat is wogen. Not being able to transmog is a druid thing. Both are not really well liked aspects.

[Nymrohd]

New Hogger.

That dressing room pose is so horrible for showing off the model, damn.

[Sondrelk]

New Hogger.

As iconic as Hogger is, it still feels weird to give a unique model to what amounts to a deprecated dungeon boss.

[Nymrohd]

As iconic as Hogger is, it still feels weird to give a unique model to what amounts to a deprecated dungeon boss.

Is it a unique model or the new model with the right customization and armor?

[Sondrelk]

Is it a unique model or the new model with the right customization and armor?

It looks somewhat unique, though might just be a variant of the model designed to be more faithful to the original that they can use in older content.

[Nyel]

It's DH!

After leveling up my DH through Shadowlands in the last days I'm curious to see what they do with Havoc, the spec is so bare bones, they need to create a ton of brand new talents or just make a lot of filler talents to get an entire talent tree out of it.

[Sondrelk]

After leveling up my DH through Shadowlands in the last days I'm curious to see what they do with Havoc, the spec is so bare bones, they need to create a ton of brand new talents or just make a lot of filler talents to get an entire talent tree out of it.

Going by what happened to MM who is similarly bare bones, they will scrounge for any old ability that even remotely fits the playstyle, and possible focus on a single secondary stat like haste to gives buffs for.

[Hitei]

Going by what happened to MM who is similarly bare bones, they will scrounge for any old ability that even remotely fits the playstyle, and possible focus on a single secondary stat like haste to gives buffs for.

DH doesn't have MM's decade and a half backlog of other abilities, mechanics and talents though. Feels like on the class tree side in particular they're going to have to add a bunch of new stuff.

[therumblings]

They're never going to let you fight in visage form because then 99% of the players will just be discount blood elf mages who never use dracthyr form.

[micwini]

As iconic as Hogger is, it still feels weird to give a unique model to what amounts to a deprecated dungeon boss.

I think it could be a general update for all gnolls. Obviously hogger sees spotlight first since it's the first thing to check. But yeah we need to see it in an animated stance, Tpose always looks weird.

[Nyel]

Going by what happened to MM who is similarly bare bones, they will scrounge for any old ability that even remotely fits the playstyle, and possible focus on a single secondary stat like haste to gives buffs for.

I wouldn't mind if they implement a lot of legendary effects and Covenant skills because the spec feels very boring on a basic level. Unfortunately they said they won't bring forth the Sinful Brand -> Eye Beam playstyle which was fun (for me). I think Havoc could be so much more than what it is now, I hope they really put some work into the talent trees.

[Hitei]

Demon hunter doesn't have the option to always be in metamorphosis form

Yes. Exactly. Because DH is not playing a demon, it's playing someone who makes use of a specific non-human power, which influences them and allows them to sometimes turn into a demon form. A thing that is really nothing like Evokers.

But what YOU are asking for is for them to add an option so that Evoker can have that exact same design of not being a dragon, but instead being a person who makes use of dragon powers and sometimes turns into a dragon form for specific attacks or CDs.

Hence the original statement: That you are eroding the identity and uniqueness of the class (two classes, really), and option choices for the sake of options is now always good.

[therumblings]

I think DH and Monk can really benefit from these new trees as they never were created with these in mind unlike other classes. Hopefully Demon Hunter gets a bunch of brand new stuff.

[Highlord Hanibuhl]

I'm still very much anxious to hear the Dracthyr voices.. both male and female ... if there even is a difference.

Nothing in the current build right now right?

[therumblings]

If there are any other abilities from WC3 and HOTS they haven't yet used, I bet they will implement them now for their respective classes.

[Hitei]

Demon hunters are not demons, and Dracthyr are their visage form as well as their dragon form.

They aren't. That is why it's called a visage. It is a surface presentation, not real. It's body transmog.

Demon Hunters are people infused with Demons.
Dracthyr are Dragonking.
You are trying to make Dracthyr people infused with Dragons.

It's part of their identity. You aren't a person that makes use of your dragon powers as a Dracthyr in their visage form, you are a dracthyr who identifies more with their visage form. Its a choice a Dracthyr could easily make in-character.

It's a mask. A person who identifies more with their visage form wouldn't be an Evoker to begin with, because why would you go off and fight people constantly turning into a dragon if you were some dumb hypothetical Dracthyr having a massive identity crisis where you were wishing you were a blood elf or human? It's not a choice a Dracthyr could easily make in-character, because they'd just stay in visage form and be a regular mage instead of choosing to fight in a way that has them constantly in and out of a form they """"don't identify with"""".