1. #64781
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    I don't feel like it erodes its distinct class identity, I think in fact it expands it in an interesting way by having more choice bundled into one race.
    It diminishes both the class and race identity by fighting in the visage form. You're not a Blood Elf or Human that can transform into a dragon, you're a dragon that takes the appearance of a mortal race. There's 0 reason to ever fight in the visage form when you can transform into a literal dragon.

  2. #64782
    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post
    Comics have been soing the same thing for 70 years.
    Which is why comic stories are trash.

  3. #64783
    Wowhead is suggesting warlock is next.

  4. #64784
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    New Hogger.

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  5. #64785
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    I don't feel like it erodes its distinct class identity, I think in fact it expands it in an interesting way by having more choice bundled into one race.
    You are trying to glyph the class into being a glorified demon hunter. Just regular people that have a dragon (read: demon) inside them and switch into a hybrid form for CDs. How is copying another classes' gimmick 1:1 not eroding class identity?

  6. #64786
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    You are trying to glyph the class into being a glorified demon hunter. Just regular people that have a dragon (read: demon) inside them and switch into a hybrid form for CDs. How is copying another classes' gimmick 1:1 not eroding class identity?
    You are either way. It isnt a unique idea being locked to a form in combat is wogen. Not being able to transmog is a druid thing. Both are not really well liked aspects.

  7. #64787
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    New Hogger.

    That dressing room pose is so horrible for showing off the model, damn.

  8. #64788
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    New Hogger.

    As iconic as Hogger is, it still feels weird to give a unique model to what amounts to a deprecated dungeon boss.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  9. #64789
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    As iconic as Hogger is, it still feels weird to give a unique model to what amounts to a deprecated dungeon boss.
    Is it a unique model or the new model with the right customization and armor?

  10. #64790
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Is it a unique model or the new model with the right customization and armor?
    It looks somewhat unique, though might just be a variant of the model designed to be more faithful to the original that they can use in older content.
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  11. #64791
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    It's DH!

    After leveling up my DH through Shadowlands in the last days I'm curious to see what they do with Havoc, the spec is so bare bones, they need to create a ton of brand new talents or just make a lot of filler talents to get an entire talent tree out of it.
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  12. #64792
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    After leveling up my DH through Shadowlands in the last days I'm curious to see what they do with Havoc, the spec is so bare bones, they need to create a ton of brand new talents or just make a lot of filler talents to get an entire talent tree out of it.
    Going by what happened to MM who is similarly bare bones, they will scrounge for any old ability that even remotely fits the playstyle, and possible focus on a single secondary stat like haste to gives buffs for.
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  13. #64793
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Going by what happened to MM who is similarly bare bones, they will scrounge for any old ability that even remotely fits the playstyle, and possible focus on a single secondary stat like haste to gives buffs for.
    DH doesn't have MM's decade and a half backlog of other abilities, mechanics and talents though. Feels like on the class tree side in particular they're going to have to add a bunch of new stuff.

  14. #64794
    They're never going to let you fight in visage form because then 99% of the players will just be discount blood elf mages who never use dracthyr form.

  15. #64795
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    As iconic as Hogger is, it still feels weird to give a unique model to what amounts to a deprecated dungeon boss.
    I think it could be a general update for all gnolls. Obviously hogger sees spotlight first since it's the first thing to check. But yeah we need to see it in an animated stance, Tpose always looks weird.
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  16. #64796
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Going by what happened to MM who is similarly bare bones, they will scrounge for any old ability that even remotely fits the playstyle, and possible focus on a single secondary stat like haste to gives buffs for.
    I wouldn't mind if they implement a lot of legendary effects and Covenant skills because the spec feels very boring on a basic level. Unfortunately they said they won't bring forth the Sinful Brand -> Eye Beam playstyle which was fun (for me). I think Havoc could be so much more than what it is now, I hope they really put some work into the talent trees.
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  17. #64797
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    Demon hunter doesn't have the option to always be in metamorphosis form
    Yes. Exactly. Because DH is not playing a demon, it's playing someone who makes use of a specific non-human power, which influences them and allows them to sometimes turn into a demon form. A thing that is really nothing like Evokers.

    But what YOU are asking for is for them to add an option so that Evoker can have that exact same design of not being a dragon, but instead being a person who makes use of dragon powers and sometimes turns into a dragon form for specific attacks or CDs.

    Hence the original statement: That you are eroding the identity and uniqueness of the class (two classes, really), and option choices for the sake of options is now always good.

  18. #64798
    I think DH and Monk can really benefit from these new trees as they never were created with these in mind unlike other classes. Hopefully Demon Hunter gets a bunch of brand new stuff.

  19. #64799
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    I'm still very much anxious to hear the Dracthyr voices.. both male and female ... if there even is a difference.

    Nothing in the current build right now right?

  20. #64800
    If there are any other abilities from WC3 and HOTS they haven't yet used, I bet they will implement them now for their respective classes.

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