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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    For any who might want to read it:
    (I don't have alpha, I cannot confirm if it's real or not, so grain of salt and all that)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlor...t_elf_leaders/
    The dialogue is actually good and makes sense. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Malfurion was liked by a certain dev though who may have decided to axe Ysera for the shock effect in Legion back than and now they make up for that haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    Unless people are trolling on the subreddit, it appears the sacrifice required for Ysera's return ... is to exchange places with Malfurion.
    Wow, that's pretty lackluster. There's no emotional connection to Malfurion in the first place, so even if in terms of lore it could be a big thing, from a player perspective - it has 0 impact I guess. And once again, cinematic and music departments have to carry the story.

    Kalec could have replaced Malygos.
    Wrathion/ Sabellian/ Ebonhorn will succeed Deathwing in his duties.
    Why they choose to bring Ysera back over developing Merithra character? It ultimately undermines Ysera's story... first she died for no particular reason. Then she played major role in Shadowlands campaign, and now this? Ufff, that's tough story-writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    Unless people are trolling on the subreddit, it appears the sacrifice required for Ysera's return ... is to exchange places with Malfurion.
    Apparently, the shit writing in the last couple of expansions was not fault of Afrasiabi...
    unclench your jaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    The dialogue is actually good and makes sense. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Malfurion was liked by a certain dev though who may have decided to axe Ysera for the shock effect in Legion back than and now they make up for that haha.
    I am right, you really must be looking for Afrasiabi under your bed every night. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    The dialogue is actually good and makes sense. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Malfurion was liked by a certain dev though who may have decided to axe Ysera for the shock effect in Legion back than and now they make up for that haha.
    I don't know about that haha, but from my perspective, even though I liked him in warcraft 3, I always felt like they didn't know what to do with him in WoW. So even before this, in my mind I had thought of ways for him to make a great sacrifice. But my headcanon was him becoming one with the new world tree or something.
    A lot of the reactions in the post are very negative, but I hope people will remember that this is just an excerpt and a lot of context is missing. There may be cinematics, quests, more story leading up to it, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    The dialogue is actually good and makes sense. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Malfurion was liked by a certain dev though who may have decided to axe Ysera for the shock effect in Legion back than and now they make up for that haha.
    So fight shitty writing with shitty writing?
    unclench your jaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    StarCraft: Ghost.
    Starcraft: Ghost as far as I know wasnt completely done, 50% maybe, not even that. there's a video that someone leaked of Starcraft: Ghost gameplay of all the completed stuff.

    I love Warcraft, I dislike WoW

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndedoKoleda View Post
    Apparently, the shit writing in the last couple of expansions was not fault of Afrasiabi...
    YEah this is so stupid. Let's fuck up with Tyrande some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    The dialogue is actually good and makes sense.
    Why do you think it's good and makes sense? Tyrande never acted like this before, it's extremely out of character, she doesn't constantly stutter, takes pauses and acts like a little girl. And it doesn't make sense that for a Dragon Aspect to resurrect someone needs to die, it has never been stated before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    The dialogue is actually good and makes sense. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Malfurion was liked by a certain dev though who may have decided to axe Ysera for the shock effect in Legion back than and now they make up for that haha.
    He was. He was Metzen's favourite character. Very underused after Wc3 sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenTheCat View Post
    Why do you think it's good and makes sense? Tyrande never acted like this before, it's extremely out of character, she doesn't constantly stutter, takes pauses and acts like a little girl. And it doesn't make sense that for a Dragon Aspect to resurrect someone needs to die, it has never been stated before.
    Well it makes sense as it gives a meaning to another one of wow's past "let's axe a famous female character for the shock" stories, other than late GoT style "subverting expectations".

    Malfurion: When she gave her life for mine in Val'sharah, it was not her time.

    Malfurion: And now... the balance may be restored.
    Besides that, Malfurion never really did anything anyways and now he can chill in Ardenweald. He will prolly be back in the cosmic expansion together with Sylvanas, and he may have learned a few new tricks by than. Also, poor Illidan I bet now he would like to leave that Seat of the Pantheon lol.

    Edit: Oh also, yeah sure, having emotions makes one a little girl. I will be gladly stay a little girl forever, thank you.

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    So you're only celebrating because a female character comes back to life, a male character dies, and you get to self insert as Tyrande? How... shallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Besides that, Malfurion never really did anything anyways and now he can chill in Ardenweald. He will prolly be back in the cosmic expansion together with Sylvanas, and he may have learned a few new tricks by than. Also, poor Illidan I bet now he would like to leave that Seat of the Pantheon lol.

    Edit: Oh also, yeah sure, having emotions makes one a little girl. I will be gladly stay a little girl forever, thank you.
    Think they should've just killed him in Darkshore, resulting in the same outcome, but at least something happened instead of squabbles not amounting to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    For any who might want to read it:
    (I don't have alpha, I cannot confirm if it's real or not, so grain of salt and all that)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlor...t_elf_leaders/
    Hah. I was sure that Merithra would be sacrificed to resurrect Ysera, but since nobody cares for her that wouldn't have been impactful enough.

    Time to fuck over Night Elves some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndedoKoleda View Post
    So fight shitty writing with shitty writing?
    Two currents of shit writing collide to form a proper and powerful shitstorm.

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    Why can't we just have... Merithra lead the green Dragonflight, Ysera stay in the shadowlands where she's completely fine and content with, and no one has to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Why can't we just have... Merithra lead the green Dragonflight, Ysera stay in the shadowlands where she's completely fine and content with, and no one has to die.
    Exactly, let a new generation take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Exactly, let a new generation take over.
    They can pretty much write her from a blank slate because she's barely had any lore around her other than being in Ahn Qiraj and in BFA for a quest or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenTheCat View Post
    So you're only celebrating because a female character comes back to life, a male character dies, and you get to self insert as Tyrande? How... shallow.
    What in the woke BS is this :’) I think most people are fine with it because he’s been completely underused as a character since WC3 and practically turned into a joke/meme the last few times he’s been used within a story. It’s best they retire him for a while honestly.

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    This comment in the sub post pretty much explains my feelings on the matter.

    F for people who wanted Merithra development.

    Also F for people who liked Malfurion?

    F for people who almost saw both Malfurion and Tyrande to exit at the same time?

    F for people who thought they wouldn't bring back Ysera one patch after she said she was bound to the Shadowlands. As if that meant something.
    Except the Tyrande part though, I don't want her going anywhere.

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    I personally like that Ysera might be back. I like the whole theme of death/rebirth that is exclusive to beings of nature/emerald dream/ardenweald.
    I also would like to be given a chance to see these characters develop and have bigger stories. All too often, side characters in wow have their 15 minutes before they're shelved or killed off and we never get a chance to get some meat on the character. I would rather build on top of Ysera's established character, than having to go back to square one and develop Merithra from the ground up.


    That being said, I do think that this feels a bit like yet another blow to the night elves, who are already pretty battered at this point. They better be getting an incredible world tree and all the goodies.

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