Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Varodoc]

Never. Just interested that the Tinker concept triggers people in such an over-the-top fashion.

I'm sure there's people reporting these posts to a moderator as we speak, simply because the word was mentioned.



That doesn't make it any better my dude.

Why though? Elves in fantasy are always presented as biologically beautiful, civilized, and superior to the other races, so I don't think it's that weird to fanboy over them.

It's renown that in fantasy the elves are always badass at everything, their main weakness being low birth rates. Which doesn't even seem to be a weakness for Warcraft elves, to be fair, I don't think it's ever mentioned that Thalassian elves had trouble reproducing or anything like that.

[Nymrohd]

Black Aspect is either gonna be Wrathion or Ebyssian.

Wrathion was the obvious choice before, but they dug up Sabellian from the closet to set up a conflict of leadership in Black Flight. I don't think Sabellian will become aspect, but this conflict may prevent Wrathion from becoming one too. Picking Ebyssian is the safe third choice.

I think bringing Sabellian in and rubbing his competence in Wrathion's face is intentional. Wrathion needs humility and character growth to become an aspect. IF someone does become an aspect it will be Wrathion imo but I really think it would make for a much better story to NOT have empowered aspects. But with Danuser on the lead . . . yeah not expecting much.

[Dracullus]

I'm thinking:

Beta in a few weeks so end of August

Pre-patch on PTR end of September/early October

Pre patch release mid November

Expansion release end of November


Sound likely?

Personally I think:

Beta & Release date revealed on Gamescom.
PTR somewhere in September.
26th October pre-patch
2nd November pre-launch event (and Evoker launch)
15th November release
29th November season start (Mythic week later)

Currently 18th anniversary event is 15th November - 6th December, but likely it's placeholder date and it will be moved 3 weeks before launch like back in 2020.

[Skildar]

Personally I think:

Beta & Release date revealed on Gamescom.
PTR somewhere in September.
26th October pre-patch
2nd November pre-launch event (and Evoker launch)
15th November release
29th November season start (Mythic week later)

Currently 18th anniversary event is 15th November - 6th December, but likely it's placeholder date and it will be moved 3 weeks before launch like back in 2020.

I would expect anniversary week to happen before prepatch. 22nd of November 10.0 starts then either the 13th or the 20th of December we get the expansion release. Raid release would happen three weeks later.

But I've been wrong so many times with date estimates for the game XD

[Celement]

I think bringing Sabellian in and rubbing his competence in Wrathion's face is intentional. Wrathion needs humility and character growth to become an aspect. IF someone does become an aspect it will be Wrathion imo but I really think it would make for a much better story to NOT have empowered aspects. But with Danuser on the lead . . . yeah not expecting much.

I think they just fucked up by forgetting about his character in legion and are now struggling desperately to find a story line where he fits in well honestly.

The old god plot made some sense but man for all the build up in mop he really is one of those wasted characters.

That and he is one of the few new characters people like after they double killed everyone's favorite villains to give fucking slyvannas a redemption story where she was somehow right all along and it was an evil ghosts fault she did bad things not her.

[Nymrohd]

I think they just fucked up by forgetting about his character in legion and are now struggling desperately to find a story line where he fits in well honestly.

The old god plot made some sense but man for all the build up in mop he really is one of those wasted characters.

That and he is one of the few new characters people like after they double killed everyone's favorite villains to give fucking slyvannas a redemption story where she was somehow right all along and it was an evil ghosts fault she did bad things not her.

In Legion I kind of hoped we'd have found him in Argus, kidnapped by the Legion and thus missing for that reason.

[micwini]

I'm thinking:

Beta in a few weeks so end of August

Pre-patch on PTR end of September/early October

Pre patch release mid November

Expansion release end of November


Sound likely?

Yes. Im all in on Scaleface right now. November release.

[Nize]

I think they just fucked up by forgetting about his character in legion and are now struggling desperately to find a story line where he fits in well honestly.

The old god plot made some sense but man for all the build up in mop he really is one of those wasted characters.

That and he is one of the few new characters people like after they double killed everyone's favorite villains to give fucking slyvannas a redemption story where she was somehow right all along and it was an evil ghosts fault she did bad things not her.

While SL's story was worse, BFA squandered a lot of potential stories. AvH should have never happened. Sylvanas story should have been merely backdrop instead of main presentation, and focus should have been on telling a more cohesive story dealing with Azshara/N'zoth. Proper build for Wrathion and his relations with Azeroth's forces would come with that.

[huth]

I would expect anniversary week to happen before prepatch. 22nd of November 10.0 starts then either the 13th or the 20th of December we get the expansion release. Raid release would happen three weeks later.

But I've been wrong so many times with date estimates for the game XD

No way they'll release new content on the 20th, right before the holidays. To many chances for stuff to go wrong with nobody around to fix it.

[Depakote]

I wonder if the Pllars of Creation are going to to be used, esp the Tears of Elune, with the mined Ysera/Furion nonsense.

They're already being used.

[Merryck]

Ysera is just a green Alexstraza. Could've turned Merithra into someone distinct. Cringe.

[Civciv]

Ysera is just a green Alexstraza. Could've turned Merithra into someone distinct. Cringe.

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[Merryck]

Why though? Elves in fantasy are always presented as biologically beautiful, civilized, and superior to the other races, so I don't think it's that weird to fanboy over them.

It's renown that in fantasy the elves are always badass at everything, their main weakness being low birth rates. Which doesn't even seem to be a weakness for Warcraft elves, to be fair, I don't think it's ever mentioned that Thalassian elves had trouble reproducing or anything like that.

You will never be an Elf. You will never find the love of your life in Quel'Thalas, who looks like Alleria and is a cutie pie Elf maiden. You will never be a legendary Elf ranger. You will never have powers drawn from the arcane or the void that allow you to overcome your most greatest tribulations. You will always be a human.

[Nymrohd]

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He is not unfair. Tell me something that distinguishes Ysera and Alexstrasza's personalities in game.

[Makabreska]

Illidan heard the latest news:

[Luck4]

I really don't get it, why it's always the Night Elves who need to make sacrifices? Ysera will defend the Night Elves as Elune did?

Where are the Sylvannas sacrifices?

If they want Malfurion out of the picture just put him to sleep in the Emerald Dream. Like seriously... I bet that seed that Tyrande got will never become anything.

Alliance lore is always developed in bad faith.

[Nymrohd]

I really don't get it, why it's always the Night Elves who need to make sacrifices? Ysera will defend the Night Elves as Elune did?

Where are the Sylvannas sacrifices?

If they want Malfurion out of the picture just put him to sleep in the Emerald Dream. Like seriously... I bet that seed that Tyrande got will never become anything.

Alliance lore is always developed in bad faith.

It's pretty much this. Alliance was developed at a position of overwhelming strength compared to the Horde back in Vanilla. Which means that within the events of WoW, the balance will always have to weigh against the Alliance because for some reason the devs are pursuing parity.
Which is frankly stupid. The allure of the Horde was meant for them to be underdogs that fights for their independence against a much stronger adversary.

[Varodoc]

You will never be an Elf. You will never find the love of your life in Quel'Thalas, who looks like Alleria and is a cutie pie Elf maiden. You will never be a legendary Elf ranger. You will never have powers drawn from the arcane or the void that allow you to overcome your most greatest tribulations. You will always be a human.

Given how I love the way I look and spend like 10 minutes every morning looking at my reflection on the bathroom's mirror, that's perfect by me. You, on the other hand, I spot a lot of projection and angst in your post. If you ever feel the need to vent again, just hit me in my PMs and I'll be there to listen to you.

[loras]

Illidan heard the latest news:

This is a work of art.
Okay not really, but it's still great.

[Feali]

You will never be an Elf. You will never find the love of your life in Quel'Thalas, who looks like Alleria and is a cutie pie Elf maiden. You will never be a legendary Elf ranger. You will never have powers drawn from the arcane or the void that allow you to overcome your most greatest tribulations. You will always be a human.

Hot damn.. who hurt you?