1. #65461
    Oh yeah, Holy Paladin talents are in too

  2. #65462
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Warlock talents in, Cooldown for Soar reduced to 4 minutes, 2 new Dungeons, and the Ohn'ahran plains
    And Soar is reduced by another minute on continents you have fully explored. 3 minute Soar seems like a good tradeoff for the speed reduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atriel View Post
    And Soar is reduced by another minute on continents you have fully explored. 3 minute Soar seems like a good tradeoff for the speed reduction.
    Oh neat...

    But fuck trade offs. Gimme the 3 Min CD WITH the crazy speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atriel View Post
    And Soar is reduced by another minute on continents you have fully explored. 3 minute Soar seems like a good tradeoff for the speed reduction.
    Too late, Asmon already had his tantrum, they must bring back 70,000% speed or THIS EXPAC IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL.

  5. #65465
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Too late, Asmon already had his tantrum, they must bring back 70,000% speed or THIS EXPAC IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
    I mean, I can't blame him tbh. The speed nerf is kinda asscheeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atriel View Post
    And Soar is reduced by another minute on continents you have fully explored. 3 minute Soar seems like a good tradeoff for the speed reduction.
    3 minutes and the nerf is still a bit ridiculous.
    Neither should exist on the Dragon Isles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Too late, Asmon already had his tantrum, they must bring back 70,000% speed or THIS EXPAC IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
    Cringe comment. Stop acting like Asmon is the only one who complained about it, and he (and others) should. It was a pointless nerf, that is still pointless. No, it won't kill the game (and no one claimed it would) but it is an anti-fun change. The cooldown was what people complained about before the speed change, there's no compromising with a change that should've already happened, now there's just two of them to complain about.

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    "Switching Talents and Talent Loadouts no longer requires being in a rested area."

    Is this gonna last or its just for alpha testing ?!

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    Oh boy, here come the videos about the additional 20% flight speed nerf for dracthyr with the racial being changed. also pretty unacceptable to not have a post on each spec each week imo, we going back to "trust us guys it will be good" -> "sorry guys we ran out of time, we will adjust it in 10.1/10.2/10.3" -> "its a more complex issue we will revisit the spec in 11.0". given that trust-levels between players and devs are at an all time lowest, i dont understand why they dont post at least SOMETHING about each spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    Cringe comment. Stop acting like Asmon is the only one who complained about it, and he (and others) should. It was a pointless nerf, that is still pointless. No, it won't kill the game (and no one claimed it would) but it is an anti-fun change. The cooldown was what people complained about before the speed change, there's no compromising with a change that should've already happened, now there's just two of them to complain about.
    Its not really cringe when asmon is well known for pushing the rage in the WoW community. Also I haven't seen any decent reason why soar should stay low instead of what it is now apparently(On Alpha)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonrage View Post
    Don't know where else to complain so i'll do it here. Why aren't there any blue/purple skin color options for the visage forms?? Green Dragons have favored Night Elf forms for millenia, yet there's no purple skin tone available??
    Because you can only be an half elf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaps_05 View Post
    Oh boy, here come the videos about the additional 20% flight speed nerf for dracthyr with the racial being changed. also pretty unacceptable to not have a post on each spec each week imo, we going back to "trust us guys it will be good" -> "sorry guys we ran out of time, we will adjust it in 10.1/10.2/10.3" -> "its a more complex issue we will revisit the spec in 11.0". given that trust-levels between players and devs are at an all time lowest, i dont understand why they dont post at least SOMETHING about each spec.
    Additional 20% Flight speed nerf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    "Switching Talents and Talent Loadouts no longer requires being in a rested area."

    Is this gonna last or its just for alpha testing ?!
    The wording makes it sounds like it's gonna stay but we will see.

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    I believe they said it was staying for full implementation when talking about loadouts to begin with. I am sure the main rules will be wont be able to change talents in combat or instances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    Cringe comment. Stop acting like Asmon is the only one who complained about it, and he (and others) should. It was a pointless nerf, that is still pointless. No, it won't kill the game (and no one claimed it would) but it is an anti-fun change. The cooldown was what people complained about before the speed change, there's no compromising with a change that should've already happened, now there's just two of them to complain about.
    Where I said he's only one (I mean having tantrum, complaining is fine of course)? We have a lot of manchilds in this community. And later people wonder why Blizzard keep as much info as they can to themselves before revealing anything...

    Btw, if nerfing 900% to 600% speed is anti-fun, does that make retail objectively more fun than classic ? And insta teleporting at any location would be so fun our synapses would explode? So many questions, so little time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Where I said he's only one (I mean having tantrum, complaining is fine of course)? We have a lot of manchilds in this community. And later people wonder why Blizzard keep as much info as they can to themselves before revealing anything...

    Btw, if nerfing 900% to 600% speed is anti-fun, does that make retail objectively more fun than classic ? And insta teleporting at any location would be so fun our synapses would explode? So many questions, so little time.
    Well, other than tantrums, his reasoning is often spot on. You make dislike, or hate this guy, but nevertheless, he knows how to articulate his arguments well.

    In regards to your second point, it's apples and oranges. I believe it's been discussed countless times already, but classic is mainly a nostalgia ride. You play classic concious of it's tediousness and roughness. It's a different type of experience. On the other hand, you play retail because it's fresh and modernized to meet today's standards of game design (whether they are capable of doing this is a seperate case, but that's their intention). The game is faster and since people are not able / don't want to commit their entire free time to one game, they simply decide to continue with retail. Also, it's way more beginner friendly. Blizzard was fully aware what their classic audience is going to be.
    Thus your analogy is invalid by default as you try to compare things that are inherently different.

  18. #65478
    Quote Originally Posted by Feali View Post
    Meanwhile Monks and DHs...
    It honestly does make sense why those would be last though. They are the only classes in the game who've never had a full talent tree. There really isn't old stuff to draw on, DH has been in a kind of iffy state since they were designed pretty heavily around artifacts so what is left is a fairly dull rotation, and their tank spec is in dire need of a remedy.

    Ditto with Monks heals, and DPS has been on a teeter totter of AoE vs Single Target damage all expansion. Like every few months you get a "Nerfed by 20%, buffed by 20%, nerfed again by 20% buffed again by 20%.

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    Reminder what speed % is normal flying at?((Like flying is at X% speed. Just curious..and well I forgot))
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Reminder what speed % is normal flying at?((Like flying is at X% speed. Just curious..and well I forgot))
    310% with the second epic upgrade.
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