Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Varodoc]

Aw hell no. Keep Night Elves away from any other Elves. I don't want them anywhere near each other. As far away from humans too.

Are you sure the few remaining homeless refugees of that race can afford to be isolationist?

[micwini]

So much for the "Everything wrong with the story was *Redacted*'s fault", and now we get this

It is and was always just a convienient lie that was easy to get people to believe. Fact is that the story went better when he was around even when he was a bit of an asshole.

[Xilurm]

Are you sure the few remaining homeless refugees of that race can afford to be isolationist?

They aren't just a few. And Tyrande took them to Nordrassil.

[Varodoc]

They aren't just a few. And Tyrande took them to Nordrassil.

Last I checked, the only city they had was nuked. Anything they possessed beyond Teldrassil were just insignificant little villages in the middle of nowhere. Their civilian population has been reduced drastically.

All they have left of note is the military, which was sent to Silithus at the start of the war, and which took considerable losses at the Battle of Darkshore.

But I do hope they have fun in Nordrassil, which is savage wilderness in the middle of nowhere. That's quite an improvement from the civilized city that is Stormwind.

I am not being sarcastic btw. It is an acknowledged in-universe fact that the Night elves are not so different from savage trolls who skulk in forests.

[Makorus]

Awesome.... A tree no Night Elf player will see unless they specifically level through this expansion in the future.

Unless of course they make this into the starting zone for Nelves further down the line. Phasing is a thing and it could work very well.

How does it matter?

New NE players are still phased into old Teldrassil.

Night Elf Players don't really see Teldrassil now either.

[LemonDemonGirl]

I am not being sarcastic btw. It is an acknowledged in-universe fact that the Night elves are not so different from savage trolls who skulk in forests.

*Looks at Dazar'alor*
Pardon?

Also, several different types of elves evolved from Night Elves.

[Makorus]

Last I checked, the only city they had was nuked. Anything they possessed beyond Teldrassil were just insignificant little villages in the middle of nowhere. Their civilian population has been reduced drastically.

All they have left of note is the military, which was sent to Silithus at the start of the war, and which took considerable losses at the Battle of Darkshore.

But I do hope they have fun in Nordrassil, which is savage wilderness in the middle of nowhere. That's quite an improvement from the civilized city that is Stormwind.

I am not ironic btw. It is an acknowledged in-universe fact that the Night elves are not so different from savage trolls who skulk in forests.

What a stupid argument.

By that logic, most races in WoW are severely underpopulated and would crumble if their main capital got destroyed. There's no cities in WoW. Everything is just insignificant little villages.

[Varodoc]

*Looks at Dazar'alor*
Pardon?

Canonically Dazar'alor is an ugly pyramid, as stated by those tourists from Silvermoon.

Also, several different types of elves evolved from Night Elves.

Key word: Evolved.

For instance, if I showed you a Void elf, you would be looking at the latest, most evolved stage of a Night elf. Which is quite obvious in their appearance really.

[Xilurm]

How does it matter?

New NE players are still phased into old Teldrassil.

Night Elf Players don't really see Teldrassil now either.

That's past lore though. In the event of a revamp it would also make sense. Besides, it would suck massively if the entire Night Elven civilization is in a place no visits because it's in the middle of nowhere.

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Last I checked, the only city they had was nuked. Anything they possessed beyond Teldrassil were just insignificant little villages in the middle of nowhere. Their civilian population has been reduced drastically.

All they have left of note is the military, which was sent to Silithus at the start of the war, and which took considerable losses at the Battle of Darkshore.

But I do hope they have fun in Nordrassil, which is savage wilderness in the middle of nowhere. That's quite an improvement from the civilized city that is Stormwind.

I am not being sarcastic btw. It is an acknowledged in-universe fact that the Night elves are not so different from savage trolls who skulk in forests.

I mean, that is... what I want. The closer the Night Elves are portrayed to their WC3 counterpart the happier I'll be. I know it will never be exactly like that but I also really don't want them living in stone castles ala Stormwind.

You wouldn't like it if High Elves/Void Elves were suddenly taken and put into huts looking like Orgrimmar now would you?

[loras]

Canonically Dazar'alor is an ugly pyramid, as stated by those tourists from Silvermoon.



Key word: Evolved.

For instance, if I showed you a Void elf, you would be looking at the latest, most evolved stage of a Night elf. Which is quite obvious in their appearance really.

Hopefully in excess: Evolution has no particular "direction", it just adapts to changing circumstances.
Chickens are "evolved dinosaurs" after all, yet i doubt any chicken would consider itaelf superior in the presence of its ancestors.
Degeneration is also evolution after all.

[Makorus]

That's past lore though. In the event of a revamp it would also make sense. Besides, it would suck massively if the entire Night Elven civilization is in a place no visits because it's in the middle of nowhere.

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I mean, that is... what I want. The closer the Night Elves are portrayed to their WC3 counterpart the happier I'll be. I know it will never be exactly like that but I also really don't want them living in stone castles ala Stormwind.

You wouldn't like it if High Elves/Void Elves were suddenly taken and put into huts looking like Orgrimmar now would you?

I mean, Teldrassil was in a place no one visits because it's in the middle of nowhere.

I don't understand your point.

[Xilurm]

I mean, Teldrassil was in a place no one visits because it's in the middle of nowhere.

I don't understand your point.

Yeah but you could visit it any time you wanted. Because it was there from level one. Considering how they are doing levelling nowdays, the Dragon Isles will just get passed by in two expansions.

"Oh yes we have a capital somewhere, not sure how to get there though."

[The Stormbringer]

And Night Elves and Forsaken ended up like that.

No capital beyond Orgrimmar and Stormwind matter.

*gasp!* You take that back! Ironforge and Silvermoon are very important!

[Makorus]

Yeah but you could visit it any time you wanted. Because it was there from level one. Considering how they are doing levelling nowdays, the Dragon Isles will just get passed by in two expansions.

"Oh yes we have a capital somewhere, not sure how to get there though."

But in two expansions time, Dragon Isles will scale anyway, so you can get there at, well, not quite Level 1, but early enough anyway.


I'd rather have some interesting storytelling rather than "has to be right there again because it used to be there!"

[Tartys]

Awesome.... A tree no Night Elf player will see unless they specifically level through this expansion in the future.

Unless of course they make this into the starting zone for Nelves further down the line. Phasing is a thing and it could work very well.

Only Hero class have a separate starting zone.

By now all the new characters are sent to Exile's Reach. So, probably after this expansion, when you have done in Exile's Reach, the new NE will be sent back in his new Elf to meet Chromie to hendle the temporal paradox.

Even if its a matter of the bronze dragonflight, isnt working very well, but by now our narrative expectation are low.

Also, actually we dont know for sure if that World Tree will became also the new NE city... maybe a branch will be used to recreate Terdrassil, just like in the past... and that world Tree in dragon island will be the gataway for the Emerald dream/Anderwald...

[Kiriastrasza]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/15...2Uu_1BFNA&s=19

Ranked solo arena queue is now a thing.

Thats awesome, I may now do Arena's as if I fail i'll know it was my own fault.

Edit
I misunderstood it, but still this is a good thing.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

But in two expansions time, Dragon Isles will scale anyway, so you can get there at, well, not quite Level 1, but early enough anyway.


I'd rather have some interesting storytelling rather than "has to be right there again because it used to be there!"

I still don't think the new capital should be on the Dragon Isles. No thanks

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Man blizzard must really hate night elf’s, destroying all the settlements in dark shore and ashenvale wasn’t enough, destroying Teldrassil wasn’t enough, killing the majority of there population wasn’t enough, better kill there Co lead to.

[Kiivar86]

So Malfurion bites it, eh?

Meh. After all this time I feel nothing.

I'm more annoyed at Ysera coming back so quickly.

[Berkilak]

Man blizzard must really hate night elf’s, destroying all the settlements in dark shore and ashenvale wasn’t enough, destroying Teldrassil wasn’t enough, killing the majority of there population wasn’t enough, better kill there Co lead to.

Modern writers seem to confuse character death with narrative development.