1. #65601
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Ugh I hate stuff like this, the helm is completely
    Ruined by not being able to put down the vizier just like the ICC pally set.

    That looks terrible..

  2. #65602
    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post



    I just love reposting this video.
    God can you imagine if that was actually in the game nowadays? The outrage would be MASSIVE lol. Those giggles at the end are amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Ugh I hate stuff like this, the helm is completely
    Ruined by not being able to put down the vizier just like the ICC pally set.

    That helm is a weapon. Peck someone in the eye with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    People won't enjoy dragonriding, yes certainly it's fast, "innovative" (for wow anyway), but there is a certain lack of freedom
    I've heard literally the opposite from like ... everyone who has actually gotten to try it, except you

  3. #65603
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Why do you think that then?

    Personally I think it looks amazing given the flying revamp, talent tree revamp, and a return to tier sets and bonuses.
    Cause Jaina and Sylvanas aren't in it, likely...

    Which alone is a stupid reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    People won't enjoy dragonriding, yes certainly it's fast, "innovative" (for wow anyway), but there is a certain lack of freedom
    Tf do you mean "lack of freedom"?

  4. #65604
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Cause Jaina and Sylvanas aren't in it, likely...

    Which alone is a stupid reason.

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    Tf do you mean "lack of freedom"?
    I guess because he can't just swim in the air like flying before this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Why do you think that then?

    Personally I think it looks amazing given the flying revamp, talent tree revamp, and a return to tier sets and bonuses.
    Wouldn't bother. This guy comes here every now and then to remind us he is not playing the game.
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    I don't hate or have any concerns about Dragonriding, as long Blizzard stick to their word and allow standard flying later in the expansion.
    Back to Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms!

  7. #65607
    Quote Originally Posted by Luck4 View Post
    I don't hate or have any concerns about Dragonriding, as long Blizzard stick to their word and allow standard flying later in the expansion.
    I’m fine with that as long as we can knock those guys off their sitting duck mounts with dragonriding in War Mode.

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    I just hope Dragonriding wasn't designed to replace standard flying in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    I’m fine with that as long as we can knock those guys off their sitting duck mounts with dragonriding in War Mode.
    lol, that would be funny.
    Back to Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luck4 View Post
    I just hope Dragonriding wasn't designed to replace standard flying in the future.
    It won't go away, for one that would destroy most flying mounts as well as dunk on accessibility.



  10. #65610
    Quote Originally Posted by Luck4 View Post
    I just hope Dragonriding wasn't designed to replace standard flying in the future.
    I sure hope it was and will succeed. Airswimming is bad for the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    It won't go away, for one that would destroy most flying mounts as well as dunk on accessibility.
    If Dragonriding is successful we may slowly see more and more models of flying mounts (not just dragons) enter the system, fewer basic flying mounts being introduced and normal flight only becoming available at X.2 patches. Start with Gryphons and Wyverns, slowly add the other racial mounts. (Also hope Night Elves will stop using hippogryphs and switch to chimeras!)

    I am still hoping they will consider mounted combat for non-flying mounts. Give each class 2 special abilities they can use while mounted (1 class wide, 2 spec specific) create mount families with different skills and give us a reason to stay mounted. Also imo mounts should transition to a system similar to other games; no daze dismount but rather you mount will have health and if it goes low you get dismounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperKarateDeathCar View Post
    I've heard literally the opposite from like ... everyone who has actually gotten to try it, except you
    Well, Since the majority of players have not tested dragonriding, I will not take this opinion as definitive.

    Obviously my opinion does not take into account the improvements that we will have on it, to see what it gives with the talent tree, etc.

    And yes by the lack of freedom, I compare compared to the real flight system. You can't "easily" climb in the air, unless you have 3 stacks, at first. Let's see what it looks like once optimized to the maximum

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    I sure hope it was and will succeed. Airswimming is bad for the game.
    The "fly up and hover" part was always a disaster. Why are there so many mobs without ranged weapons???

    Mounts should be more about freedom to move than freedom to escape.
    Last edited by Nymrohd; 2022-08-07 at 09:53 AM.

  14. #65614
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    The "fly up and hover" part was always a disaster. Why are there so many mobs without ranged weapons???

    Mounts should be more about freedom to move than freedom to escape.
    It's not just the fly up and hover. It's the ability to start and stop from and to anywhere, the complete freedom of movement making flying related challenges impossible to make, and how nothing could meaningfully interract with the player while in this mode.

    Dragonriding fixes some of the most glaring issues. Things like not being complete free to stop and spin on a dime, move directly upwards, or just use it whenever even a minor obstacle shows up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    It won't go away, for one that would destroy most flying mounts as well as dunk on accessibility.
    There is no reason older mounts can't be made to work with Dragonriding mechanics. Sure it might look a bit silly to have helicopters that can't hover, but that is no more absurd than biplanes being able to spin in a dime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    There is no reason older mounts can't be made to work with Dragonriding mechanics. Sure it might look a bit silly to have helicopters that can't hover, but that is no more absurd than biplanes being able to spin in a dime.
    I think they could actually make the effort and give them something different. For instance helicopter-like mounts perhaps could be allowed to fly directly up and hover but maybe it will be harder to land them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    The "fly up and hover" part was always a disaster. Why are there so many mobs without ranged weapons???

    Mounts should be more about freedom to move than freedom to escape.
    You could also ask how come mobs aggro us only when we come really close to them. :v

    If DR is here to stay, then the most logical choice is to have both flying systems at once you can swap with a toggle.
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  17. #65617
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I think they could actually make the effort and give them something different. For instance helicopter-like mounts perhaps could be allowed to fly directly up and hover but maybe it will be harder to land them.
    You could try actual helicopter flying mechanics, so you have to tilt forward to move and stuff. Might be a bit overcomplex, though. Probably slower and less flight time.

    Helicopters would be the closest to old "flying".

  18. #65618
    I can understand old flying for going vertical or alt tab travel, but I think anyone that says "I hope old flying stays" hasn't actually seen how much faster DR is. Will you really enjoy flying at 1/3 the speed?

    The system should be expanded to old mounts. New animations aren't needed, most people won't care as long as they can use their old mounts. (IE nobody will whine if their Ashes can't do a barrel roll)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post







    People asked for tier back. The consequence of having to make 13 class sets per tier (+13 PvP sets) is you're not going to get the number of sets elsewhere that we got in BfA and SL.
    I didn't see those ensembles, thanks for pointing them out. Glad they are staying. I think the Valdrakken ones may just be a shirt and pants combo though.

  19. #65619
    Quote Originally Posted by Luck4 View Post
    I don't hate or have any concerns about Dragonriding, as long Blizzard stick to their word and allow standard flying later in the expansion.
    I don't think they would have big problem with that, it's not like people would discard dragonriding mid expansion since it's way faster. If anything more people will push to introduce it to whole world.

    But I see another problem, having less and less reasons to use different mounts. I barely use my ground mounts already even if some are really cool, now I will feel this way with most flying mounts. I wonder if it will be possible to add wings equipment that would make all mounts act like dragonriding mounts in the future, even if some animation would look weird.

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    Looking at the story of the new Uldaman wing and the new Chromie scenario, I suppose half the expansion is going to be the Infinite Dragonflight get bamboozled by us at every turn for them to always reply with "just wait until Murozond comes!" or always warning us that Murozond is coming.

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