1. #66141
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    I bet that if Cata would come today, old world wouldn't be erased, but kept as side stuff as well.
    I don't see them ever doing another Cata style revamp especially one that destroys the old stuff, I just want the old zones to be up to 2022 standards. Having the classic world as an option in Chromie time would be great but it's probably not worth the work at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
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    So the leaked schedule has been double confirmed now. The image in the previous post has been nuked from the internet.

    And WotLK Classic prepatch has been confirmed for August 30th, just as the leaked schedule said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Shit, leak got very credible just in few hours. Now I really want to know how they will deal with Season 1 if release is Nov 28th. I see 4 options (listed from least to most likely):

    1) Move everything to January - very unlikely, but you know we thought 2022 release will be impossible as well. But I think 5+ weeks with just M0 would kill whole hype pretty fast.

    2) Raid coming 13th December, Mythic 20th. I know they don't want to repeat Sepulcher sitution, but it's likely race will last more than 5 days. If affects like ~200 people at most, but still would be shitty thing to do from Blizzard.

    3) Mythic difficulty coming on 13th December along Normal/Heroic, on 20th only first wing LFR. That would be my favourite solution, don't raid Mythic so I don't know how these guys react - still looks like better alternative than Christmas raiding though.

    4) Imo most likely - we will have just 1 week of no season, raid coming 6th, mythic 13th. In this case expect many "do you neeeeed??" in mythic dungeons on first week.

    But still, it's strange they would corner themselves so much with this date. Looks like there is no room for delay. Even slightest delay could cause 2023 release and missing Christmas season.
    I don't know, this feels like they get a lot of room to move with these dates at least as far as releasing in 2022. If they don't hit 11/28, they still have 3 more pre-holiday weeks they can hit for the expansion to launch before it is into 2023. Any delay in start time & we probably are looking at scenario #1 you listed, it's otherwise just too narrow of a window to hit. If they can hit that date, I wouldn't be surprised to see Scenario #3 play out, possibly even with LFR being passed over until January or just released alongside everything else with the understanding that LFR 2 will take an extra week or two due to the holidays. Mythic over the holidays can definitely be a bit of a pain & they won't want to have all hands on deck bug-fixing in late December.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    The longer we wait, the higher chance a world revamp is likely to happen. The game is getting older and while the new player experience is pretty good, so much of the old world is outdated and as time marches on it becomes much more obvious.
    Agreed, and I still think 11.0 seems like a likely time for it to occur. 20th Anniversary of WoW, first expansion under Microsoft, plus probably a lot of the current crew at Blizzard kind of want to remove the influence of some of the earlier dev team after the recent controversies. A revamp allows everyone a fresh reset, especially if there has been any sort of underlying secretive engine reworks or the like under the surface.

  5. #66145
    I highly doubt DF will release Nov 29, maybe it's actually a plan - but I don't see how they gonna sort all the trees and stuff out for prepatch in 2 months from now, especially given they have to add 2 more classes, let alone all this NYI everywhere.

    I bet they will do it like in Shlands with delay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    I highly doubt DF will release Nov 29, maybe it's actually a plan - but I don't see how they gonna sort all the trees and stuff out for prepatch in 2 months from now, especially given they have to add 2 more classes, let alone all this NYI everywhere.

    I bet they will do it like in Shlands with delay.
    Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 preorders get to play the Campaign week early on October 20th, confirming the 27th of October launch date for CoD: Cortez.

    So the schedule looks very solid right now, all is left to see if they can stick to it.

  7. #66147
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    So the schedule looks very solid right now, all is left to see if they can stick to it.
    What I meant that the info might look legit, but I do think they will delay just like they did with Shadowlands. Given state of Alpha, I just don't see how they manage prepatch end of October, let alone full release end of November.

    They probably indeed targeted those dates, but it just does not seem going there as I see it.
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    gotta love the Blizzard leakers

  9. #66149
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    What I meant that the info might look legit, but I do think they will delay just like they did with Shadowlands. Given state of Alpha, I just don't see how they manage prepatch end of October, let alone full release end of November.

    They probably indeed targeted those dates, but it just does not seem going there as I see it.
    What is the "state of alpha", exactly? We absolutely do not have the same issues that we ran into with BfA and SL test periods. The hyper focused testing phases seemed to have helped a ton so far, and we will have nearly 2 months for beta if they release in September. A lot of the class trees are pretty solid, so they have time to iron out the ones that are not.

  10. #66150
    Prepatch hits ptr end of this month
    Beta within two weeks of now
    Launch will be in November

    Now give me my monk trees damn it

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    Build later today boys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Build later today boys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Shit, leak got very credible just in few hours. Now I really want to know how they will deal with Season 1 if release is Nov 28th. I see 4 options (listed from least to most likely):

    1) Move everything to January - very unlikely, but you know we thought 2022 release will be impossible as well. But I think 5+ weeks with just M0 would kill whole hype pretty fast.

    2) Raid coming 13th December, Mythic 20th. I know they don't want to repeat Sepulcher sitution, but it's likely race will last more than 5 days. If affects like ~200 people at most, but still would be shitty thing to do from Blizzard.

    3) Mythic difficulty coming on 13th December along Normal/Heroic, on 20th only first wing LFR. That would be my favourite solution, don't raid Mythic so I don't know how these guys react - still looks like better alternative than Christmas raiding though.

    4) Imo most likely - we will have just 1 week of no season, raid coming 6th, mythic 13th. In this case expect many "do you neeeeed??" in mythic dungeons on first week.

    But still, it's strange they would corner themselves so much with this date. Looks like there is no room for delay. Even slightest delay could cause 2023 release and missing Christmas season.
    Let the raid begin in Jenuary... they have a month to fix the talents from complaisn, in the meantime m+, dungeons, skill professions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    I barely use my ground mounts already even if some are really cool.
    I feel you here.

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    I wonder if it will be possible to add wings equipment that would make all mounts act like dragonriding mounts in the future, even if some animation would look weird.
    BUT HELL NO.

  15. #66155
    Quote Originally Posted by Atriel View Post
    What is the "state of alpha", exactly? We absolutely do not have the same issues that we ran into with BfA and SL test periods. The hyper focused testing phases seemed to have helped a ton so far, and we will have nearly 2 months for beta if they release in September. A lot of the class trees are pretty solid, so they have time to iron out the ones that are not.
    The fact the zones that we test aren't half broken shows this isn't a repeat of the past
    There's no overarching system that has them working on it every single patch for redesigns

    The game will be fine

  16. #66156
    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Man View Post
    The fact the zones that we test aren't half broken shows this isn't a repeat of the past
    There's no overarching system that has them working on it every single patch for redesigns

    The game will be fine
    Exactly. I don't know whey people are so fervently calling things rushed or throwing things around like "state of alpha" when it's going smoothly. Anyone that believes wholeheartedly that they will delay the expansion launch like they did SL is more likely in for some disappointment when the game launches without that overarching system they complained about all this time.

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    nooooooooooooooooooooo

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    Build cancelled, see y'all tomorrow!

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  19. #66159
    So no datamine until tomorrow, or just no testing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    So no datamine until tomorrow, or just no testing?
    They can't update the servers or clients yet.

    Can you figure out what that means for datamining?

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