Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

They did? Dang...

Yeah, in regards to upcoming Priest changes just two days ago:

Greetings, Priests! With the next alpha update, you will see that all trees within the Priest class...

[Lahis]

Yeah, in regards to upcoming Priest changes just two days ago:

Greetings, Priests! With the next alpha update, you will see that all trees within the Priest class...

That just means the next Alpha build will happen sometime between the post and the heat death of the universe, and it will contain priest changes.

[Revamp Man]

When they just said that they will have an upcoming alpha build?

They said update
Beta is technically an update to alpha

[Marlamin]

So all the builds are going to be coming out on Thursday / Friday henceforth ...

We also had Wrath pre-patch launch this week which might have taken some live ops time which might have pushed stuff a little (just like 9.2.7).

[Nymrohd]

They said update
Beta is technically an update to alpha

They did say alpha update. And I think we are still missing one spec and one dungeon? Haven't kept good track of professions. I also was hoping for beta this week but I think the next build will still be Alpha.

[Nyel]

That just means the next Alpha build will happen sometime between the post and the heat death of the universe, and it will contain priest changes.

Yeah and it basically confirms that we don't get beta yet, which was the question raised.

[enigma77]

NeW bUiLD toDaY?

[Reive]

If we don't get beta today, i'm almost sure we're going to get at least an announcement. We have less than 3 months left until the leaked date.

[Arkura]

Ion said earlier though that as soon as every spec and is playable they would move into beta as soon as possible.
Maybe this build they announce the beta or next week. I doubt they would announce beta in the middle of the priest changes post.

[Black Rider]

PTR coming soon?
https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1565070910960406532

[Nymrohd]

Ion said earlier though that as soon as every spec and is playable they would move into beta as soon as possible.
Maybe this build they announce the beta or next week. I doubt they would announce beta in the middle of the priest changes post.

Well we still don't have Vengeance. I think we will get Vengeance this week and then the built after will be beta.

[gcsmith]

I like the difference between beta and alpha this time. Alpha is focused testing limited content making sure it works, before Beta ends up being mass test what you want, with maybe some content being pointed out as "We want this tested?"

Also, they can start raid testing in beta if they want.

[Sondrelk]

I like the difference between beta and alpha this time. Alpha is focused testing limited content making sure it works, before Beta ends up being mass test what you want, with maybe some content being pointed out as "We want this tested?"

Also, they can start raid testing in beta if they want.

It's possible Blizzard is just going to flat out not test bosses before releasing them. The final three bosses of Sepulcher was considered a smashing success by almost everyone, barring the high tuning. Given Blizzard agrees raids should be easier I think they might just err on the side of low tuning with mythic WF difficulty coming from the bosses being complete unknowns. This is especially relevant seeing as Mythic will likely release first week, meaning WF raids will see ALL the bosses for the first time, not just the final boss, and not just on that specific difficulty.

[Avikur]

I expect we’ll get the alpha build today or tomorrow and then get beta next week.

As for PTR, it would be very strange for that to go live before the beta, or even at the same time. I’d expect the PTR sometime AFTER beta launches, so maybe in a few weeks time?

[gcsmith]

I expect we’ll get the alpha build today or tomorrow and then get beta next week.

As for PTR, it would be very strange for that to go live before the beta, or even at the same time. I’d expect the PTR sometime AFTER beta launches, so maybe in a few weeks time?

Given the PTR is open to all and BETA is invite only, they may want PTR up for as much talent feedback as possible.

[Nyel]

Pre-patch on PTR doesn’t make sense as long as they’re still heavily tuning and changing talent trees in alpha / beta. Which is the case to this day. Add a completely missing spec and it should be obvious that PTR is several weeks away.

[Dracullus]

Pre-patch on PTR doesn’t make sense as long as they’re still heavily tuning and changing talent trees in alpha / beta. Which is the case to this day. Add a completely missing spec and it should be obvious that PTR is several weeks away.

Bullshit, in SL we had PTR 2 months before pre-patch, when ton of thing weren't figured out either. PTR will be updated just like beta after any talent change. They probably want to finish last spec before starting PTR, but it could be any day.

[gcsmith]

Pre-patch on PTR doesn’t make sense as long as they’re still heavily tuning and changing talent trees in alpha / beta. Which is the case to this day. Add a completely missing spec and it should be obvious that PTR is several weeks away.

? PTR would give far more feedback regarding the talent trees, it makes sense to have PTR once all trees are done on a first run basis at least.

[Makorus]

I mean, the PTR for the Prepatch doesn't need to be balanced or anything if all they are doing is testing the actual Prepatch content.

It's gonna have a dungeon, a large playerbase, gonna be good for data gathering

[Lady Atia]

Pre-patch on PTR doesn’t make sense as long as they’re still heavily tuning and changing talent trees in alpha / beta. Which is the case to this day. Add a completely missing spec and it should be obvious that PTR is several weeks away.

Tuning is actually easier if you can use the PTR to get more people to try out the new talents. There is a reason why the first week of a patch usually also has another wave of tuning / bug fixing, simply because of the huge difference of data between something like the alpha / ptr and the life server. So yeah, PTR together with beta would actually make sense.

I remember how much of a shitshow huge talent-tree changing pre-patches like cataclysm or MoP were .... trust me, they want as much data as possible prior to release.