1. #66461
    Quote Originally Posted by Schwert View Post
    The idea that every single feature needs to be a challenge is precisely the issue with WoW and it's playerbase in general.
    Something cannot simply exist for fun; people need to be better than somebody else at it, and things need to be difficult.

    It's a video game. An MMO at that, and the genre is thriving off "casual" content and people just vibing.
    Features existing for the sake of just being there for everybody to have a good time is important, and something that the game has lacked.
    LFR existing does not mean it's fun or engaging content.

    And luckily Dragon Flying is fun and engaging content, and has potential to be evergreen if they keep expanding on it and bring it into future zones with new mount skeletons.

    If you want to pretend like flying around really good matters, sign up for player run races or something.
    Not everything needs to be challenging, but simultaneously you don't need to make everything "required".

    So far it seems Dragonriding is made easy solely to make it work as an easy core mechanic for everyone, rather than an optional movement option for those who enjoy it.

    It's the same arguments we had with flying. You shouldn't remove it because it makes content difficult, you should remove it because it's an easy cheat for those who don't want to be involved in open world content. There already exists summoning stones that removes the need for most players to engage with open world content, you don't need to add another thing that trvializes open world content in order to make it even easier to get to instances.

    In short: Why do we need to make Dragonriding easy? Or rather, why do we need to make Dragonriding this trivial?
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  2. #66462
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    That is AU Xera or her equivalent.
    The Naaru aren't part of the alternate universe nonsense, just like the Legion.

  3. #66463
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Forget about Sabellian or Wrathion, Vazallia should become the next Aspect.
    https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...85793059725313
    she is one of saberlian's followers, she may be vice aspect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    The Naaru aren't part of the alternate universe nonsense, just like the Legion.
    They are though, K'ara exists in both MU and AU.



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    Honestly, Wrathion should not become Aspect. He's unfit, too tempered and just not old or experienced enough.
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  6. #66466
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    They are though, K'ara exists in both MU and AU.
    And I'm gonna assume that either got overlooked, retconned or explained in a silly manner.
    AU stuff has been explained to only apply to mortals and 'Reality'. All of the cosmos are outside of 'Reality'.

  7. #66467
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Looks like they are working hard to turn Dragonriding away from fun and engaging content and instead make it airswimming just like current flying.
    Not sure what you're on about? At best the turning from show speeds feels wonky, but that's it. The whole idea is that in slow speeds, without much air pressure, your Dragon will be more free to turn, while in higher speeds, due to the pressure, you'll get that more weighted feel.

    With enough tuning, it'll likely feel much better.

    But if anything, the slow speed turning reminds me a bit of how Alphas first built felt regarding turning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    Our Outland is dying too, so it could be that Draenor's fate is to be destroyed in all realities. But as I said before we are just especulating here, although the only fact is that WoD's Draenor still exists, and I guess that if the Draenei over there build a space ship they could go back to Argus or other planets, I do not think that there is a wall of magic around Draenor that limits that universe to only one planet, but who knows.
    Our Outland is dying because got torn apart and is soaking in nether juice. But maybe it is fate that AU Draenor is suffering from being in the same reality is Outland. I don't think there actually is another Argus though. There isn't actually a "whole other universe" connected to Draenor. I think Blizz even confirmed it is just a pocket dimension that was tacked onto our universe (as an explanation for why there isn't an extra Azeroth in that universe).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izalla View Post
    There isn't actually a "whole other universe" connected to Draenor. I think Blizz even confirmed it is just a pocket dimension that was tacked onto our universe (as an explanation for why there isn't an extra Azeroth in that universe).
    They confirmed the opposite.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    That is Afrasiabi interview, so it is pretty much null and void about anything at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    That is Afrasiabi interview, so it is pretty much null and void about anything at this point.
    Are they changing lore he created, because he is no more?
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  12. #66472
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Are they changing lore he created, because he is no more?
    It wouldn't be surprising.

    But it also doesn't matter, because Blizzard can and will retcon with a sledge hammer as much as they want if something really doesn't fit their future vision. "We always thought X but turns out, actually Y!" Done, move along, there's nothing we can do.

  13. #66473
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    That is Afrasiabi interview, so it is pretty much null and void about anything at this point.
    Not true. Blizzard does not delete lore, they rename it if tied to a sexpest.

    The lore may never ever be brought up again about Alt Azeroth but it has not been deconfirmed. But considering it doesn't exist in game or is ever mentioned it may as well not be canon, as it isn't relevant (unless Yrel and Exarch Garrosh recruit some alt Azeroth characters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Interesting find. So the ''pocket dimension'' of AU Draenor is another universe until we get confirmation on the contrary. I hope that they address this topic in DF.
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    Why has this thread turned into a boring conversation about Warlords of Draenor?

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    I don't think people realize what an "Universe" is.

    Azeroth is not an universe. Draenor is not an universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I don't think people realize what an "Universe" is.

    Azeroth is not an universe. Draenor is not an universe.
    What we are saying is that WoD's Draenor belongs to its own universe, now that we have confirmation that Azeroth also exists in WoD's Draenor planetary system, is pretty much a confirmation of a new entire universe (which Blizzard probably will never touch again, but until we get new info, there are at least two different universes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I don't think people realize what an "Universe" is.

    Azeroth is not an universe. Draenor is not an universe.
    But our Azeroth is basically 616 while AU Draenor was basically 838.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    Interesting find. So the ''pocket dimension'' of AU Draenor is another universe until we get confirmation on the contrary. I hope that they address this topic in DF.
    I mean, Danuser essentially just kept the multiverse thing going in Shadowlands.

    If they didn't intend for the multiverse to be a thing (which, lets be honest, its a way to milk themes for expansion content, they are not gonna move away from that idea) then Danuser wouldn't have adressed AU souls in his weird thread and rope analogy from that one interview.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I mean, Danuser essentially just kept the multiverse thing going in Shadowlands.

    If they didn't intend for the multiverse to be a thing (which, lets be honest, its a way to milk themes for expansion content, they are not gonna move away from that idea) then Danuser wouldn't have adressed AU souls in his weird thread and rope analogy from that one interview.
    What did he say about AU souls? I missed that one.
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