Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

Btw, can we appreciate how good an idea it is to go back to pre WoD days of tier design? All sets look good and have full geometry and spell effects. Mythic is just a diff color. Great change.

And we'll have color options on the good looking design instead of the better design to be in boring colors while the LFR set has the best color combo . . .

[Chickat]

Not sure if Evoker will be on the pre patch PTR, there was a discussion a few pages back about whether Demon Hunters were in the legion pre patch PTR or not. Hopefully they are because like you I’d like to be able to test them and provide feedback before they are finalised.

https://blizzardwatch.com/2016/06/14...y-hitting-ptr/

The answer is no, not at launch of ptr at least. I wouldn't hold your breath for Evoker on ptr.

[Arkura]

https://blizzardwatch.com/2016/06/14...y-hitting-ptr/

The answer is no, not at launch of ptr at least. I wouldn't hold your breath for Evoker on ptr.

I think Demon Hunter came with the pre patch when it went live, not on the ptr. All the testing that was done was on the beta before it went live I think.


World of Warcraft’s new playable class, the Demon Hunter, will be available on August 9, just before the Legion expansion releases on August 30.

That was 2/3 weeks after pre patch hit live I think.

[Celement]

A video game of a specific genre, containing basic elements of that genre.
If you didn't want basic rpg elements in your game, maybe you should be playing something else.

Yeah this argument totally wasn't used to write off sl's mistakes either...

How about we address gameplay issues and you stick to table tops?

[huth]

I think Demon Hunter came with the pre patch when it went live, not on the ptr. All the testing that was done was on the beta before it went live I think.


World of Warcraft’s new playable class, the Demon Hunter, will be available on August 9, just before the Legion expansion releases on August 30.

That was 2/3 weeks after pre patch hit live I think.

Exactly 3 weeks or 21 days.

[Celement]

That's...how story based MMORPGS work, yes...

FFXIV does that too, but in cutscenes believe it or not

It's how it should be done. So far DF has you stand still and be lectured to or simply wait for events to happen.

[huth]

It's how it should be done. So far DF has you stand still and be lectured to or simply wait for events to happen.

As opposed to standing still and be lectured to without even being able to move? I'm not seeing the big difference.

[Celement]

As opposed to standing still and be lectured to without even being able to move? I'm not seeing the big difference.

You can click out of one.

[infinitemeridian]

Can shamans / hunters wear the Evoker armor and vice versa?

[loras]

You asked many pigeons about their opinion on Dracthyr?

What are you even trying to say now? That Dracthyr are fundamentally wrong on same basic, natural level and people who like them are wrong? Fkin please!

A total of one pidgeon has been asked, it happened to be injured close to my door and as such needed a ride to the bird-healer.
Its opinion on the matter can be summarised as "Let me out of this pidgeon-eating shoebox, it's dark in here.".

It's less that they are fundamentally wrong, more fundamentally different, they stand out like a sore thumb. I can't really put my finger on it personally, but i'm with the pidgeons on this one: Shoeboxes are dark, but they beat being carried in a plastic bag exposed to scorching sun.

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Ok...

So what do you think explains the Dragon Isles now? Think real rreeeeaalll hard about this btw

Magic can explain anything, and yet nothing if it's done too arbitrarily, much like anything else in fantasy.

It's probably better to explain it in memes to one like you:
"You can accept dragons, elves and talking trees, but you can't accept a 2021 BMW 5?"


What stands out, stands out, nothing more to it. Even magic can't fix that.

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i think this didnt turn out awful for about 20 seconds of work

Love it.
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[infinitemeridian]

Is threads of fate continuing in DF?

[FenixAU]

Is threads of fate continuing in DF?

Hope so! I can't imagine doing SL content in the intended order again.. I imagine it'll feel the same in DF.

[Sondrelk]

Can shamans / hunters wear the Evoker armor and vice versa?

Not many off-set pieces available from the Evoker set, but in case that changes then there isnt anything stopping Shamans and Hunters from wearing the same gear, no.

[Raetary]

So, they have replaced the old Spirit Healer model with random Kyrian NPCs all over Azeroth.

I hate this.

[BaumanKing]

So, they have replaced the old Spirit Healer model with random Kyrian NPCs all over Azeroth.

I hate this.

This is a good thing tho. The objectification of women is a problem that needs to be dealt with. The old Spirit Healer model was overtly and unnecessarily sexualized. Kyrians don't dress like that. So personally I like this change.

[Nymrohd]

So, they have replaced the old Spirit Healer model with random Kyrian NPCs all over Azeroth.

I hate this.

Did they change Spirit of Redemption? Also don't we have specific lore that says that the Spirit Healers of Azeroth were Val'kyr made by Odyn that went rogue and sided with neither him nor Helya? How about Anara?

[Sondrelk]

So, they have replaced the old Spirit Healer model with random Kyrian NPCs all over Azeroth.

I hate this.

And? It's the correct choice by all metrics. We saw it clearly in the Kyrian questline that the Spirit Healers were just regular Kyrians. They just looked like that because Kyrians were not a concept back then. The other option would have just to either have a glaring plothole, or hastily create some weird lore at the tail end of SL to explain why the developers were too lazy to change the old model.

[Lady Atia]

And? It's the correct choice by all metrics. We saw it clearly in the Kyrian questline that the Spirit Healers were just regular Kyrians. They just looked like that because Kyrians were not a concept back then. The other option would have just to either have a glaring plothole, or hastily create some weird lore at the tail end of SL to explain why the developers were too lazy to change the old model.

I'm gonna check it out in a second and do some screen shots if I can find any Kyrians in the old world. Gonna say I would like a mix rather than a 100% replacement, otherwise the priest spell will have no (correct?) lore anymore I guess.

[Nymrohd]

And? It's the correct choice by all metrics. We saw it clearly in the Kyrian questline that the Spirit Healers were just regular Kyrians. They just looked like that because Kyrians were not a concept back then. The other option would have just to either have a glaring plothole, or hastily create some weird lore at the tail end of SL to explain why the developers were too lazy to change the old model.

Eh, that was a retcon. We don't know if it is valid for every spirit healer or just the one we interacted with in the Redridge questline; the old lore might still be true.

[Lady Atia]

So, atleast Stormwind still has the classic Spirit Healer.



Nothing wrong if they really would have replaced a few of them with Kyrians though, but so far I couldn't find one by dying randomly in the old world.