1. #67601
    Raszageth really has no charisma. I still find the idea of the Primalists hilariously bad. I guess every kid in Azeroth dreams of joining some cult one day.

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    Tong the Fixer (the innkeeper from the Hidden Stair in MoP) seems to have followed Wrathion to the Dragon Isles. More Pandaren-induced character development in his future I guess.
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    Raszageth really has no charisma. I still find the idea of the Primalists hilariously bad. I guess every kid in Azeroth dreams of joining some cult one day.
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  3. #67603
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Do not underestimate the power of a cult.
    I mean I don't. Half of Azeroth belongs to a cult. No one even had heard of the Primalists before and now they have enough forces to assault a small continent.

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    Good to see i am not the only one thinking everyone and their parents are invited except me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean I don't. Half of Azeroth belongs to a cult. No one even had heard of the Primalists before and now they have enough forces to assault a small continent.
    Isnt the implication that the Primalists are an offshoot of the Twilights Hammer?
    Still begs the question of why the Twilights Hammer are still around when Sinestra, Deathwing, and seemingly all the Old Gods are dead, but I digress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Isnt the implication that the Primalists are an offshoot of the Twilights Hammer?
    Still begs the question of why the Twilights Hammer are still around when Sinestra, Deathwing, and seemingly all the Old Gods are dead, but I digress.
    Or really, WHO did they find out about the Primalists from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Isnt the implication that the Primalists are an offshoot of the Twilights Hammer?
    Still begs the question of why the Twilights Hammer are still around when Sinestra, Deathwing, and seemingly all the Old Gods are dead, but I digress.
    Sinestra isn't dead according to lore items in islands

  8. #67608
    Raid testing announced!

    "The final boss of Vault of the Incarnates, Raszageth the Storm-Eater, will not be available for testing."

    First up:

    Thursday, September 29
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    Eranog – 13:00 PDT (16:00 EDT, 22:00 CEST)
    Terros – 14:00 PDT (17:00 EDT, 23:00 CEST)
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    I am guild and raid lead of an mythic raiding guild. All my member got an invite and i have none xD. I have to say this is the first time that happened, but it is more than stupid.
    I also entered in all the "raffles". Nothing

    I was invited for WoD and Shadowlands as "veteran" for all the other beta invites i had to enter giveaways/raffles. I don't know how blizz chooses who gets beta invite this time around, but 30% of the people in my guild do not even want beta.. and have access now

    I got burning crusade and wotlk beta, both not interesting for me. Maybe that is the reason why i don't get dragonflight..it is frustrating.
    Last edited by Nandorion112; 2022-09-24 at 12:41 AM.

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    Giving beta to those that don't even want it is a bit daft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean I don't. Half of Azeroth belongs to a cult. No one even had heard of the Primalists before and now they have enough forces to assault a small continent.
    The element's have been going on about there supremacy since classic and have always had people backing them so the primalist is just that but with a new leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xentronium View Post
    Giving beta to those that don't even want it is a bit daft.
    if they didnt want it they wouldnt opt in and they only give it to those who opt in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Man View Post
    if they didnt want it they wouldnt opt in and they only give it to those who opt in
    I've had nothing but invite spam the last few days.

    At first it was just 3-4 emails a day, but then Blizz started calling twice a day. WTF! They are literally just as annoying as those auto insurance telemarketers.

    Then yesterday while watching youtube there was a personalized commercial reminding me to log in to beta and start playing, I clicked out of that and thought I was safe.

    However, the next morning around 9am a couple of blizz employees rang my doorbell. At first I thought they were Jehovah witnesses, but then they handed me and my wife some World of Warcraft flyers and reminded us that there is still time to resubscribe and try out beta, I kicked the suits to the curb.

    Later that afternoon while driving to Costco for weekly groceries, the wife looked up and saw a airplane dragging a sky message that read, 'Pahbi, don't forget about the beta!'. When we got back to the car after Costco, someone had left a DF Beta flyer under my windshield wiper! WTF!!!

    I'm not even interested in beta but Blizz keeps hounding me to death.

  14. #67614
    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Man View Post
    if they didnt want it they wouldnt opt in and they only give it to those who opt in
    In my opinion many people only want to test their own class in beta. Many of my guild mates only played beta for less than 5 hours.
    And it is not difficult to sign up for beta. So everyone in the guild did it, even the people who won't play it. (and yes.. that is stupid)

    Sometimes it would be nice to know how the process of invites is. Are they totally random or is there a system.

    In the past there was this "veteran" system and for raid tests many of us got an invite. But dragonflight is a different story.. it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nandorion112 View Post
    In my opinion many people only want to test their own class in beta. Many of my guild mates only played beta for less than 5 hours.
    And it is not difficult to sign up for beta. So everyone in the guild did it, even the people who won't play it. (and yes.. that is stupid)

    Sometimes it would be nice to know how the process of invites is. Are they totally random or is there a system.

    In the past there was this "veteran" system and for raid tests many of us got an invite. But dragonflight is a different story.. it seems
    How is it a different story for DF? The "veteran" system might still apply as raid testing starts in the second half next week, so presumably you would want to send out the raid testing invites next week as well. So at the moment we don't know if they want to target a specific demographic once again for raid or not.

    From what I've managed to gather, other than the initial media wave of alpha invites, all waves of invites so far have been randomly selected, and also that the waves have been larger in this alpha/beta cycle than before. So if you haven't gotten in yet, its just RNG.
    Wouldn't really make sense to send out targeted invites to beta before the testing you want to target has started.

    To add to the first paragraph topic. I agree that a lot of people have signed up just to check their class, but that was still valid since they were responding to class feedback and wanted people to check out classes.

    Personally my experience so far has been going leveling and doing side quests as well and reporting any small or large bugs I find (like for a random example just before the beta servers went down tonight, and now back up and bugging, I found a mailbox that wasn't interactable but should be and reported...), I would say over the past few days, per 3-5 hours of testing I reported about 15 bugs, mostly smaller stuff.

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    On another topic, something I find weird is that running normal dungeons while leveling is dropping ilvl 356 gear, which is Normal dungeon iLvL for level 70 chars. I am unsure if this is intended as currently and in past expansion leveling normals dropped level appropriate or level scaled gear. If this is intended I means queueing for normals is really good while leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post

    On another topic, something I find weird is that running normal dungeons while leveling is dropping ilvl 356 gear, which is Normal dungeon iLvL for level 70 chars. I am unsure if this is intended as currently and in past expansion leveling normals dropped level appropriate or level scaled gear. If this is intended I means queueing for normals is really good while leveling.
    Uh, I'm gonna generously say that it's highly unlikely that this is intended for launch, and that for whatever reason, the ilvl scaling for dungeons is probably just disabled on the beta. I really don't believe that Blizzard would make it so that a drop from a level 61 dungeon will last you all the way to 70.

  17. #67617
    So they are done with class design for now . . . damn that is not nice to hear.

  18. #67618
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    So they are done with class design for now . . . damn that is not nice to hear.
    They actually explicitly say they are not. They're now prioritising fixing and balancing what is there over changing it, but specificially not stopping the later and don't expect to do so over the course of the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneckt95 View Post
    Raid testing announced!

    "The final boss of Vault of the Incarnates, Raszageth the Storm-Eater, will not be available for testing."

    First up:

    Thursday, September 29
    Heroic
    Eranog – 13:00 PDT (16:00 EDT, 22:00 CEST)
    Terros – 14:00 PDT (17:00 EDT, 23:00 CEST)
    First time they announce entire set of testing across all difficulties. They are really stepping up efficiency of this beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    So they are done with class design for now . . . damn that is not nice to hear.
    Imagine having literal hundreds of pages of feedback on Mages and not act on like 5% of it, but instead introduce legendaries with fundamental issues since Legion and having 3 spec trees which are just Shadowlands copy paste or a class tree that makes literally no sense (and is primarily a copy of shadowlands conduits).

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