1. #67721
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Then you haven't understood Arthas at all. Yes, he is righteous. But not really all that well-meaning and the madness was always there. Nor was he terribly smart or a good leader.

    Turalyon is what Arthas wanted to be seen as.
    I always thought this would have been a better end for WoD instead of demons again. The alternate Alliance invading Draenor after Jaina takes on Gul’dan’s role and warns Azeroth of what happened in the First War. Causing the Alliance to do a pre-emptive strike, taking out the Iron Horde, our Horde, and our Alliance. Why our Alliance? Because the First War heroes were true paragons of the virtues of the Alliance. The current leaders don’t live up to those ideals. It would be a sobering experience for our Alliance, at war for 30 or so years, to realize how twisted by conflict they’ve become. To the point that their heroes view them the same as Orcs.
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  2. #67722
    I haven't seen much about it in the beta but have they been updating the old dragon models (and dragonkin, drakonids etc) or are all the new models only in the new continent area?

  3. #67723
    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    I always thought this would have been a better end for WoD instead of demons again. The alternate Alliance invading Draenor after Jaina takes on Gul’dan’s role and warns Azeroth of what happened in the First War. Causing the Alliance to do a pre-emptive strike, taking out the Iron Horde, our Horde, and our Alliance. Why our Alliance? Because the First War heroes were true paragons of the virtues of the Alliance. The current leaders don’t live up to those ideals. It would be a sobering experience for our Alliance, at war for 30 or so years, to realize how twisted by conflict they’ve become. To the point that their heroes view them the same as Orcs.
    While I would have loved for the seven Kingdoms to get the treatment of the Draenor clans (so much lore we could get) it would also divert too much time away from Azeroth proper.

    But damn can you imagine fighting against AU Medivh and AU Lothar. The reasoning could be that AU Medivh as a true Guardian realized this was an opportunity to occupy and safeguard MU Azeroth by using the existing time portal. Then he'd attack us with the full might of the Kirin Tor, Seven Kingdoms and Council of Three Hammers behind him not to kill and conquer but to take over.

    But no one would know he was Sargeras all along.

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    Treant form is now back, its just cosmetic though.


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  5. #67725
    Quote Originally Posted by Abitou View Post
    anyone not subbed got into beta ?
    Im not subbed, but I do keep my gametime running. I do have beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Im not subbed, but I do keep my gametime running. I do have beta.
    I don't think Blizzard differentiates between a sub and bought game time.


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    I feel like you have a bigger chance of getting into beta if you report bugs in the live game once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Treant form is now back, its just cosmetic though.
    Been like that since Cata changed Tree of Life into Incarnation instead of normal shapeshift for Resto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Been like that since Cata changed Tree of Life into Incarnation instead of normal shapeshift for Resto
    I'm aware, but the spell was taught by a cosmetic spell tome before.
    Now its baseline, even though it does nothing.
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  10. #67730
    I'm surprised how long it takes them to announce a final release date. I don't know how it was in the past, but Dragonflight is supposedly launching in two months and they are not sure to announce a fixed date yet?
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  11. #67731
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I'm surprised how long it takes them to announce a final release date. I don't know how it was in the past, but Dragonflight is supposedly launching in two months and they are not sure to announce a fixed date yet?
    Most organisations (where I'm from) require four weeks notice for time off so if anyone is looking to book time off for launch then it has to be October. I can see it happening in the next two weeks if I'm honest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyscale View Post
    But then again, in the story, we're pretty brutal murder machines and not really "strategical assets". Just send us in and we'll murder everything in our way!
    So I guess the solution here is simple - we'll murder everyone.

  12. #67732
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaganite View Post
    Most organisations (where I'm from) require four weeks notice for time off so if anyone is looking to book time off for launch then it has to be October. I can see it happening in the next two weeks if I'm honest.
    WotLK Classic launches next Tuesday (26th), so I don't think it would be the best time to announce it. Either this week or early October, imho.
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    I've had the beta little over a month now with probably 5 total hours sunk into it. I did Legion, BfA and SL beta testing and was thoroughly hyped during those. This is the 1st time where I just do not have any drive to play this coming expansion. Sad days ahead.

  14. #67734
    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    I've had the beta little over a month now with probably 5 total hours sunk into it. I did Legion, BfA and SL beta testing and was thoroughly hyped during those. This is the 1st time where I just do not have any drive to play this coming expansion. Sad days ahead.
    Let's be honest: If you're not super into playing Evoker, what else is there? New dungeons, new zones and a new raids. That's about it. New talents are nice and that, but don't change anything or alter the playstyles drastically. Here and there are some new builds that mostly play like the iteration of the spec you've been playing since Legion. Dragonriding is a useless fluff feature and besides that? Dragonflight is just not exciting when you're not interested in Evoker. It feels more like an improved status quo than a new expansion.

    I'm looking forward to it because of Evoker, but that's about it.
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  15. #67735
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Let's be honest: If you're not super into playing Evoker, what else is there? New dungeons, new zones and a new raids. That's about it. New talents are nice and that, but don't change anything or alter the playstyles drastically. Here and there are some new builds that mostly play like the iteration of the spec you've been playing since Legion. Dragonriding is a useless fluff feature and besides that? Dragonflight is just not exciting when you're not interested in Evoker. It feels more like an improved status quo than a new expansion.

    I'm looking forward to it because of Evoker, but that's about it.
    I would say that if you don't care about the return of Tier sets/bonuses and the effect they have on the raiding experience, as well as are generally unmoved by Open World content, then yes its probably not going to change your opinion of the game.
    However, if you don't care about the improvements to general spec building, open world content, raids, dungeons, or really any of that kind of content, then what exactly are you expecting out of a new expansion?
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  16. #67736
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I'm surprised how long it takes them to announce a final release date. I don't know how it was in the past, but Dragonflight is supposedly launching in two months and they are not sure to announce a fixed date yet?
    It is a bit bizarre but I imagine they've become a lot more hesitant on finalizing anything after they had to backtrack on Shadowlands.

  17. #67737
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I would say that if you don't care about the return of Tier sets/bonuses and the effect they have on the raiding experience, as well as are generally unmoved by Open World content, then yes its probably not going to change your opinion of the game.
    However, if you don't care about the improvements to general spec building, open world content, raids, dungeons, or really any of that kind of content, then what exactly are you expecting out of a new expansion?
    Mostly new features I guess? And not just making the base game better. For sure improving the base game and old features is a mandatory thing, but that should not replace new features, which it does in Dragonflight. I can already see how divisive Dragonflight will be just by how basic and ordinary it is for a new expansion.

    Tier sets returned in Shadowlands already, so I'd hardly call that anything specific for Dragonflight. New content aka zones, dungeons etc. is for every expansion a given and nothing unsuspected. It's the bread that carries every expansion, so is improving the base game. But where's the butter? As I said, Evoker is it and if you like that - like me - you're lucky. If not, Dragonflight is like a piece of dry bread. It will satisfy your hunger, but it won't make you feel anything besides that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Mostly new features I guess? And not just making the base game better. For sure improving the base game and old features is a mandatory thing, but that should not replace new features, which it does in Dragonflight. I can already see how divisive Dragonflight will be just by how basic and ordinary it is for a new expansion.

    Tier sets returned in Shadowlands already, so I'd hardly call that anything specific for Dragonflight. New content aka zones, dungeons etc. is for every expansion a given and nothing unsuspected. It's the bread that carries every expansion, so is improving the base game. But where's the butter? As I said, Evoker is it and if you like that - like me - you're lucky. If not, Dragonflight is like a piece of dry bread. It will satisfy your hunger, but it won't make you feel anything besides that.
    Yeah, but the "butter" of the last three expansions was hated by 95% of the playerbase. I for sure won't miss it haha.

    And yes, I will rather eat a dry piece of quality bread than a shitty bread with some boring butter on top.

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  19. #67739
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Yeah, but the "butter" of the last three expansions was hated by 95% of the playerbase. I for sure won't miss it haha.

    And yes, I will rather eat a dry piece of quality bread than a shitty bread with some boring butter on top.
    The last expansions did not have shitty bread, they had shitty butter - in parts. That doesn't mean that all of a sudden you should completely stop adding butter because dry bread seems sufficient. It's not and y'all see that one to two months after the expansion has launched. I guess Blizzard will learn and the expansion after that will deliver on features again.

    I mean most of what they do in Dragonflight is just mandatory, so I don't want to not appreciate it. I just doubt that it's enough to carry an expansion.
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  20. #67740
    Oh Jesus, Nyel&co are in that mode again. Oh tell me again fellas how no one will be hyped about this game that will sell ~3.5M or more copies before 2nd day.

    YOU KNOW THIS EXPAC LOOK PRETTY NICE. BUT WHERE IS TORGHAST WARFRONT OR AP TO GRIND BRO??? WHAT WE WILL DO IN EXPANSION THAT JUST ADD SHIT TON OF CONTENT???

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