Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nokster10]

I don't have numbers on this? Do you?
Anyways, just hoping to try this out myself. I think this was the last wowhead stream I watched. No offense (again)

I'm sure you and the other dozen void elf fans are gonna be happy this patch.

[Pheraz]

Yeah call me maniac or whatever. But isn't the whole point of data mining the exitement for the game?
I mean, I am a software dev myself, tech is nice etc etc, but in terms of WoW it is purely the game. And not the moment I would identify some id or whatever.
It feels to me like the data mining stuff is not really helping out with its initial purpose. It only exists because people have fun digging in the corpses of builds Just an impression, could be wrong ofc

[Dracullus]

It's pretty obvious, but Winter Veil stuff shows pretty clear no 9.2 this year.

[Hugnomo]

I honestly just mute the wowhead stream and put it to the side while doing other stuff. I like seeing the new datamined stuff quickly but not necessarily a fan of listening to it. No hate to the crew, thanks for the work, but I like being excited and I don't like when others damper it. It's why I rarely come to mmo c too, just small doses

[Kiivar86]

Forgive me if its been mentioned since there's been like 12 pages since I last logged on (lost power last night due to Ida, got it back mid afternoon today), but I saw mention elsewhere of potentially the flying spell tome mount as a cash shop thing? Is that accurate?

[Marlamin]

Yeah call me maniac or whatever. But isn't the whole point of data mining the exitement for the game?
I mean, I am a software dev myself, tech is nice etc etc, but in terms of WoW it is purely the game. And not the moment I would identify some id or whatever.
It feels to me like the data mining stuff is not really helping out with its initial purpose. It only exists because people have fun digging in the corpses of builds Just an impression, could be wrong ofc

And not the moment I would identify some id or whatever.

Ironically, any new tech/new systems/matching up things/puzzling is my favorite thing about datamining. Not even content. The only content I like looking for is stuff that's in-development or remains of scrapped ideas/future things.

[Raetary]

Forgive me if its been mentioned since there's been like 12 pages since I last logged on (lost power last night due to Ida, got it back mid afternoon today), but I saw mention elsewhere of potentially the flying spell tome mount as a cash shop thing? Is that accurate?

Yep.

NEW NAK's Test Mount [DNT]
Description: In the forgotten depths of the Dalaran library, this oversized tome was found flapping madly around the room. Open the pages of this arcane-infused book and hitch a ride to magical adventure.
Source: In Game Shop

Model id: 102040

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dat...ter-pet-324020

[Edward Wu]

https://gyazo.com/63c2448656b36d91ffd481e1e3b16ac3

This is unironically so pathetic.

If they knew what my garrison shipyard ships are called they'd ban me for life.

[Pheraz]

Ironically, any new tech/new systems/matching up things/puzzling is my favorite thing about datamining. Not even content. The only content I like looking for is stuff that's in-development or remains of scrapped ideas/future things.

Alright. I think it is pretty cool what you've build up there. Really impressive! (wowtools, right?)
Just wanted to express that it looks to me that wowhead, data-miners and people actually beeing exited about World Of Warcraft are not nessecarly connected to each other anymore. Which is a pitty, in my humble opinion. And I could imagine that this is the reason why blizzard is not so super happy about data mining in the first place. Because it does not always cater to the exitement of the game but rather its own purpose

[Kiivar86]

Yep.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dat...ter-pet-324020

Hm. On the one hand, that is the mount I voted for in the contest.

On the other hand, damn it, a cash shop?

...hate that I may well buy it then.

[Marlamin]

Alright. I think it is pretty cool what you've build up there. Really impressive! (wowtools, right?)
Just wanted to express that it looks to me that wowhead, data-miners and people actually beeing exited about World Of Warcraft are not nessecarly connected to each other anymore. Which is a pitty, in my humble opinion. And I could imagine that this is the reason why blizzard is not so super happy about data mining in the first place. Because it does not always cater to the exitement of the game but rather its own purpose

Stiven's personal preferences don't go for the preferences of all dataminers. There's several I can think of that do look for customization things (e.g. keyboardturner on Twitter) or focus on story related things.

As for Blizzard's relation with datamining, they don't like datamining when it comes to spoilers or unannounced store content (which is why they spent so much time on encrypting things), they don't really care about most other things these days. Heck, they appreciate it when we encounter and report data bugs.

Also, to be clear, no offense taken or anything. I love writing about this kind of stuff and actually have a several-page document I hope to release one day on Blizzard's relation with dataminers.

[Pheraz]

Stiven's personal preferences don't go for the preferences of all dataminers. There's several I can think of that do look for customization things (e.g. keyboardturner on Twitter) or focus on story related things.

As for Blizzard's relation with datamining, they don't like datamining when it comes to spoilers or unannounced store content (which is why they spent so much time on encrypting things), they don't really care about most other things these days. Heck, they appreciate it when we encounter and report data bugs.

Also, to be clear, no offense taken or anything. I love writing about this kind of stuff and actually have a several-page document I hope to release one day on Blizzard's relation with dataminers.

Yeah keyboardturner is my fav "dataminer". He/she expresses actually exitment for the game. I think this person looks like he/she actually PLAYS the game Which should be the first step in this whole story (IMO).

Anyways, thanks for what you are doing, I am going to sleep /wave

[AngerFork]

Hm. On the one hand, that is the mount I voted for in the contest.

On the other hand, damn it, a cash shop?

...hate that I may well buy it then.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this as one of their 6-month sub incentive mounts. If so, it'll at least be "free" for a handful of us.

[Revamp Man]

I am going to make a bold prediction and say Blizzard will announce 9.2 right around the same time 9.1.5 goes live, so likely somewhere in early to mid october.

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Why is mass AoE needed all the time? The dungeon mob density is hardly much different from the ones in SL, and the times when there are large amounts of enemies they are pretty much guaranteed to be weak enemies surrounded by a big one.

The game really doesnt need to have that much uncapped AoE, it just leads to the same issue we had in Legion where the ideal solution to M+ is to pull half the dungeon, mass silence and AoE them down with the most ridiculous AoE abilities the game has to offer.

Besides, who sits here and thinks we should honestly tune the current design based on deprecated content? If Legion had problems arising from mass AoE then why should future expansions have to live with it for an event that is currently just a single week every 2-3 months.

1. There never really was a huge problem about Zerg aoe. It’s like all other “problems” blizz mention to justify changes that suddenly disappear later allowing the changes to be reverted.

2. Legion dungeons have more diverse trash packs than we do now. An example is pretty much every pack in Eye

3. This change literally just makes the game feel better for most.

Like most of the changes coming the only negative is the feelings coming from the system design team.

[Kiivar86]

I wouldn't be surprised to see this as one of their 6-month sub incentive mounts. If so, it'll at least be "free" for a handful of us.

Good point. Then I'll likely get it since I hvae the 6-month sub anyway.

But I may also get that new transmog too because that does look good from what i can see. I hate that but...

[Marlamin]

Build is actually out to launchers now.

[Seasz]

Build is actually out to launchers now.

Any encripted content found so far?

[AOL Instant Messenger]

But I may also get that new transmog too because that does look good from what i can see. I hate that but...

This strikes me as something of a double-edged sword. On one hand, this means that we can actually expect the store microtransactions to be far more worthwhile. On the other hand, this could indicate too much effort being put into the store when there could be effort for actual, in-game items. At the very least, this could make the store more worthwhile and less of a money sink.

[Revamp Man]

Everyone talking about the astral/lunar armor

I’m here looking at the dragon bundle

Dragon isles 10.0

[Hitei]

1. There never really was a huge problem about Zerg aoe. It’s like all other “problems” blizz mention to justify changes that suddenly disappear later allowing the changes to be reverted.

2. Legion dungeons have more diverse trash packs than we do now. An example is pretty much every pack in Eye

3. This change literally just makes the game feel better for most.

Like most of the changes coming the only negative is the feelings coming from the system design team.

Hard disagree. There was nothing enjoyable about dungeons being "pull every pack before the boss and spam AoE spell", burn boss, repeat. They didn't even feel like dungeons at that point