Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Shakzor]

With Nov 28 confirmed, what was the prepatch date? Oct 25 or so?

[Dracullus]

Y'all got 2 weeks of prep then basically.

Y'all? People who are affected by this change no-life game on launch anyway.

With Nov 28 confirmed, what was the prepatch date? Oct 25 or so?

Yeah, makes most sense to have full cycle of fated raids done. But I guess Blizzard could announce date even on Oct 13th, they usually wait to last moment in case they have to delay patch (and with 25 Oct they have room to delay).

[Lahis]

The shitshow begins.

Only WRF people are affected. Any normsl peeps will start with heroic and normal to get gear first.

[Raetary]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-win...returns-329096

Winds of Wisdoms is returning next week, lasts until Evokers become available.

[Sondrelk]

Really hoped they would move the raid opening to January. Going straight from launch to the raid opening doesn't really help much with those that want to take their time. Not to mention having a break on raidong literally the second or third week of raiding isn't all that great for raiding guilds.

[Raetary]

The release date trailer literally has Overwatch music playing for some reason.

[Darkarath]

Good news! Let us leave Shadowlands behind us ASAP.

Really happy for the buff experience too

[Makabreska]

Necrotic and Inspiring affixes are being removed.

[Revamp Man]

Ye, only shit guilds form loot councils and tell people to prep their BiS lists for easier loot distribution. And we all know that no decent guild has any type of argument regarding loot when Group Loot is active.

If a guild stops doing stuff after a boss kill and just sits there it's definitely a shit guild

Use your loot council but don't sit there twiddling your thumbs go kill trash

[Makabreska]

If a guild stops doing stuff after a boss kill and just sits there it's definitely a shit guild

Use your loot council but don't sit there twiddling your thumbs go kill trash

And who said anything about sitting at the boss waiting? Discussions and then arguments can, and will, spill out to the entire evening raid and other days.

[r4vio928]

99% chance its November 28th unless they push it back

You were correct!

[ThatsOurEric]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-win...returns-329096

Winds of Wisdoms is returning next week, lasts until Evokers become available.

Awesome news. That bonus exp really cut a lot of
time in the leveling department.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Please be goood. Please be good. Please.. please, please please PLEASEEE be a good expansion..!! Don't be another BFA and don't be another Shadowlands. 2 bad expansions in a row.

[Koollan]

What social aspect? Clicking a button is not a social aspect. Personal Loot is more social than Group on that matter since you actually need to talk to the person that got the drop.

Actually talking to your group members and organizing the loot as a group rather than "looks like i got the trinket again. yay."

Your group is rewarded for the effort. It's just as much as a psychological thing as a reward distribution thing.

Then again, if they just changed how personal loot worked in the first place and made you able to trade it with no restrictions, then perhaps there would be less complaint.

EDIT:
Group loot also combats armor-class stacking. Which, in fairness, this expansion likely may need, if certain classes are tuned way better than others with the new balance and class reworks. People are gonna go elitist-mode.

[Kiria]

Actually talking to your group members and organizing the loot as a group rather than "looks like i got the trinket again. yay."

Your group is rewarded for the effort. It's just as much as a psychological thing as a reward distribution thing.

Then again, if they just changed how personal loot worked in the first place and made you able to trade it with no restrictions, then perhaps there would be less complaint.

EDIT:
Group loot also combats armor-class stacking. Which, in fairness, this expansion likely may need, if certain classes are tuned way better than others with the new balance and class reworks. People are gonna go elitist-mode.

They should have just done this.

[Makabreska]

Actually talking to your group members and organizing the loot as a group rather than "looks like i got the trinket again. yay."

Let's face it. Most of the talking will be done between peeps from Loot Council and rest will have to follow.

[Koollan]

Let's face it. Most of the talking will be done between peeps from Loot Council and rest will have to follow.

How the interaction goes with 99% of guilds:

"roll for ms"
If nobody rolls:
"roll for os"
If nobody rolls:
"roll for de"

That seems so difficult.

[Dracullus]

Really hoped they would move the raid opening to January. Going straight from launch to the raid opening doesn't really help much with those that want to take their time. Not to mention having a break on raidong literally the second or third week of raiding isn't all that great for raiding guilds.

Way to kill initial expansion hype with 5+ weeks of just M0 and casual stuff. Don't get me wrong, I would love that personally as I tend to explore everything, but drought is horrible thing early into expac for general health of game.

[Nymrohd]

Have to say I haven't seen a build this unstable in late beta since TBC

[r4vio928]

How the interaction goes with 99% of guilds:

"roll for ms"
If nobody rolls:
"roll for os"
If nobody rolls:
"roll for de"

That seems so difficult.

It's more difficult in pugs, and Idk what loot is going to be in LFR, but where it's random people in the group, they'll probably be drama. In a guild it shouldn't be hard to orchestrate, and hypothetically it does allow for more control over the loot.