Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Raetary]

Alright, Dragonriding is hands down my favorite feature.

[Shadochi]

Alright, Dragonriding is hands down my favorite feature.

It truly is, and even better its a feature that IMO they nailed in all aspects:

Accessibility - You get it pretty much like an hour into the expansion
Ease of use - First time it might feel awkward but then you quickly get used to it, and the tutorial quests help a lot
Progress - You can further expand it and by the time you reach level 70 you can have all or almost all of the progress done (if you don't just zerg leveling and go to the glyphs while leveling in that zone). The progress is also nice because the unlocks you get are also needed to collect some glyphs.
Alt Friendliness - As soon as you make it to the Dragon Isles, you have your Dragonriding mounts and the glyph points you already collected.
Fun - even after a couple of weeks of beta I still found it fun and tbh don't miss the AFK in air stuff. Zones are also built to support this, and the capital is elevated making it easier to just get anywhere in DI on one fly. Especially if starting at the aspect tower

[Makabreska]

They nerfed Ret even more...

Wtf

Well, they were pretty damn strong during last week raid testing.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Well, they were pretty damn strong during last week raid testing.

Still pretty big nerfs. Like they could a toned it down a bit.

[Makabreska]

Damage was all we had...

The fuck do I care if we did pretty good in raids damage wise? Fuck yeah!!! That's the only thing keeping us viable...

Nerf that to the ground, we're worse off than in SL...

Did they strip all the great utility in DF they used to have?

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Crazy...

My hype for DF is now low...

All because of Class tuning being dogshit. Yay...

Calm thy teetz.

[Revamp Man]

They nerfed Ret even more...

Wtf

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I'd love to test it...

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I don't have Beta while everyone else does and they nerfed my spec again...

Why???

They brought it in line
Just like WW
Which is all fine because ret is still better than WW and we are always smack dab in the middle

[Kiivar86]

It truly is, and even better its a feature that IMO they nailed in all aspects:

Accessibility - You get it pretty much like an hour into the expansion
Ease of use - First time it might feel awkward but then you quickly get used to it, and the tutorial quests help a lot
Progress - You can further expand it and by the time you reach level 70 you can have all or almost all of the progress done (if you don't just zerg leveling and go to the glyphs while leveling in that zone). The progress is also nice because the unlocks you get are also needed to collect some glyphs.
Alt Friendliness - As soon as you make it to the Dragon Isles, you have your Dragonriding mounts and the glyph points you already collected.
Fun - even after a couple of weeks of beta I still found it fun and tbh don't miss the AFK in air stuff. Zones are also built to support this, and the capital is elevated making it easier to just get anywhere in DI on one fly. Especially if starting at the aspect tower

I'm willing to eat my crow, I'm enjoying it as well, far more than I expected.

Still like regular flying just fine but this is fun.

[Makorus]

Utility is my favourite buzzword to throw around when it's about tuning.

The only utility that is a make or break is immunities, and that's it.

No one gives a shit about your utility when you do enough DPS.

[Ashana Darkmoon]

Utility is my favourite buzzword to throw around when it's about tuning.

The only utility that is a make or break is immunities, and that's it.

No one gives a shit about your utility when you do enough DPS.

That's true with some stuff but there are a lot of mandatory raid buffs now, and fewer flex spots than ever

[Gorsameth]

Utility is my favourite buzzword to throw around when it's about tuning.

The only utility that is a make or break is immunities, and that's it.

No one gives a shit about your utility when you do enough DPS.

Or having a buff/debuff that increase the dps of someone more important.

[Makabreska]

Utility is my favourite buzzword to throw around when it's about tuning.

The only utility that is a make or break is immunities, and that's it.

No one gives a shit about your utility when you do enough DPS.

Hmmm, so stuff like Death Grip, Ring o Peace or Gateway are meaningless? Ever tried Painsmith or Xymox w/o locks?

[Gurahk]

Utility is my favourite buzzword to throw around when it's about tuning.

The only utility that is a make or break is immunities, and that's it.

No one gives a shit about your utility when you do enough DPS.

Completely untrue in PvP scenarios and higher difficulty raiding.

[Nymrohd]

Damage was all we had...

The fuck do I care if we did pretty good in raids damage wise? Fuck yeah!!! That's the only thing keeping us viable...

Nerf that to the ground, we're worse off than in SL...

Well we DELETED people in PvP.

Prot still does but don't tell anyone!

[bruxx]

Got in the beta too

[Aucald]

One issue I have with Dragonriding in the most recent patch is that persistent rushing wind sound effect that starts as soon as you mount up on a Dragonriding mount. I think it'd be fine to have that sound effect while you're soaring downward in a vigor recharge arc of descent, but having it persistently going the entire time you're mounted up is a bit grating.

[Lahis]

Did literally everyone get the beta? I got an invite this morning.

Nope. No Beta.

[Revamp Man]

I do love tge salt geysers from this stuff

I imagine they will slowly rebalance these numbers and just went the route of "cut 20% so we can then see exactly how much we'd need" instead of 3 nerfs constantly

Like it or not some of these changes were definitely justified. A ret pally shouldn't be able to do 50% of the damage in a dungeon by himself in appropriate gear. As for the speed of the rotation it will get insane by 10.1.

My WW is next on the chopping block and that's after they already broke clones....again.

Looking at DF as a whole though I think I have my leveling figured out. My main will be an herbalist/enchanter at first just for the speed enchants then drop that for mining because of the ore requirements for most professions. At cap I'll probably go BS/mining for the weapons and the matrix drops.

Alt will be mage who goes tailoring enchanting for bags and cloaks. Likely will cap week 2 then use for raid mats or crafting for guildies or getting materials for them to craft.

Main will get all the dragon runes week 1 and focus on getting gold for most of the races. I'll cap before the chromie questline to max chances of a stronger neck. The weekly requires 4k rep gain which is relatively easy now that they boosted the rep gains

[YogSoggoth]

Still nothing in terms of pre-patch playable content

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Name one mmo that does that

Also if you started shadowlands in the final few months you missed out on a lot
Ignoring the stuff that gets replaced like end of season rewards

You missed
All the dungeons in m+
The maw
Korthia
All of torghast
Vast majority of campaign content
And millions in passive gold generation

That ignores also shards of domination and all of the raids before the fated syste

As someone who played a bit throughout all the Shadowlands i can't believe you've included Maw, Korthia and Torghast as something you can regret skipping. These three things are the worst pieces of content i've touched in WoW (especially 9.0's Maw) and i'm pretty damn sure many would agree. I do kinda regret missing out on some of the free gold though. And i guess the mythic+ mounts. The rest is pefrectly backtrackable for anyone interested. Campaigns are boring and shallow too btw.

[Revamp Man]

As someone who played a bit throughout all the Shadowlands i can't believe you've included Maw, Korthia and Torghast as something you can regret skipping. These three things are the worst pieces of content i've touched in WoW (especially 9.0's Maw) and i'm pretty damn sure many would agree. I do kinda regret missing out on some of the free gold though. And i guess the mythic+ mounts. The rest is pefrectly backtrackable for anyone interested. Campaigns are boring and shallow too btw.

Try getting groups for the rares anymore
You don't get the maw or any of the other systems in a way that didn't immediately feel like garbage

It's like missing ToT in MoP
Yeah it's still there
Yeah you can do it
It just feels worse like playing a pokemon game with a game shark

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The game now if you just started is
Cap
Get to the final zone
Get geared for the raids
CN and Sepulcher weeks aren't bad because hey you just go to the zone and flying is an easy unlock including for ZM
Farming souls and anima for your covenant portal

However since you skipped the maw and everything from 9.1 the travel to sanctum is more annoying
Crafting your legendary while cheaper gold wise is now more involved because you need books since the dungeons aren't ran anymore and CN is only ran one out of every 3 weeks

Torghast is also more of a pain due to you zerging every layer unless you do gauntlet which still requires work. You can skip it by buying the package from ZM but then you need more cosmic Flux for your tier forge.


Compared to if you played through it can mostly be summed up as Veilstrider

[MightyWarrior]

Still no beta but im unsure whether its because I asked for a refund on a sub during the drought after Korthia or because I wasn't subbed for the last two months lol